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The marketing hype has overtaken reality. The current AI technology is not ready for real world deployment and it will not be ready for the foreseeable future: https://rodneybrooks.com/my-dated-predictions/.

Probably never will. ML is not a golden Hammer. It's an analog information encoder and decoder. It's excellent at parsing images, but it can't make decisions, that's not how thought processes works. On AI day when they explained that they were training their car by throwing all sorts of random garbage scenarios to it because if they didn't it would run stuff over I facepalmed. Like they spend all this time avoiding the actual solution because they want an AI breakthrough.. GUYS you already have an amazing 3d parser, just write a fucking if-else to stop when somethings ahead. You don't need to add a moose in flipflops to your regression testing sets...

It’s one thing to sit there making predictions, saying all along “See, I said so”. It’s another thing to go out there and fail and learn and move the needle step by step.

There’s Churchill. There’s Semmelweis. There’s JFK. There are the pioneers of computing. They have all been ridiculed by many. Luckily for the world, they have also persisted in their folly. And have inspired many others.

Do you know who Rodney Brooks is?

I gotta apologize. My post was a knee-jerk reaction to the headline of the original post, and to the notion that Tesla's FSD program was "marketing hype". The blog post by Brooks is actually very interesting to read. Thank you for sharing it - I just upvoted.

Regarding the "marketing hype":

Phrasing it this way, to me, implies that Tesla wasn't really seriously working on the problem. Or that FSD by way of cameras + neural nets was an approach that has already been demonstrated to be a dead end. Both of which I don't think is true.

It's true that Tesla has been promising a coast-to-coast autonomous drive since 2016. They have, as they say themselves, "egg on their face". Also, it's true that one can argue over several of their design decisions. But I think there is a difference between a group of people working towards a hard goal, and a group of people knowingly creating unrealistic expectations for marketing reasons.

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