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Just remembered, doesn't Laravel use a lot of Symfony components? If that's true then I have used it a bit since 2013, if only indirectly.

Still does, although you really don't notice while programming.

Yes: https://packagist.org/packages/laravel/framework

Isn’t laravel so alien, that they’re called laravel devs rather than php devs?

Yii seems to have its fans in that space. I know CraftCMS loves it.

CakePHP is also quite active and popular.

That was quite popular a while back also. I tried to pick it up when I first got into web development and never really understood it (didn't really understand MVC at all) and started using CodeIgniter (which is also still going) instead which seemed more straight forward - although used it more like VC rather than MVC haha.

Quite nice to see they're all going.