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We open sourced something similar called StatGrabber awhile back, including Perl and Python client libraries. We tend to avoid threads, and so it instead uses non blocking UDP (guaranteed delivery on localhost) to a collector daemon, which aggregates and then delivers the info to Ganglia for graphing. https://spideroak.com/code if anyone is curious.

The client modules simply emit non-blocking UDP packets and get on with their business, avoiding slowing down their response time. You can graph 4 types of stats: counters (ex: transactions) averages (ex: size of transactions), accumulators (ex: bandwidth used) and elapsed time (ex: time per transaction)

It's pretty nice to see Ganglia graphing system metrics along side of all the stats we have the backend emit. For example, one of the stats graphed are revenue events. There's clear relationship between network health issues and revenue.

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> UDP (guaranteed delivery on localhost)

That's not something I've heard before. Is it generally true of localhost-UDP? OS Specific? Particular to your usage?

I've tried to find where I originally read that. IIRC, it's a particularity of the Linux implementation, and of course only applies in the case that there's actually a process listening. I'll keep looking and post back if I run across a proper reference.

I doubt non-blocking anything has guaranteed delivery on localhost if you don't account for full buffers. As long as there is a buffer, sure, why would UDP lose packets on localhost?

In order to not block your program, you'll have to do it like one always has with non-blocking sockets: have a buffer and poll for the "write-able" event.

Unix sockets would involve less overhead and provide more security if you only send to localhost. I really don't see a reason to use UDP on localhost at least if you are not running on Windows.

We wrote something similar at Brightcove to collect system statistics and publish them graphite. It runs as an independent service and focuses on OS (not application) level metrics.

https://github.com/BrightcoveOS/Diamond

That looks really convenient and useful.

<3 SpiderOak. Any reason you guys don't host or mirror your code on Github? Makes it much easier for us curious tinkerers to keep your stuff organized and 'top of mind' among the many other things we fork, grok, and hack at.

I'll second that - it was actually a bit of a surprise seeing a recent open source project where I had to download and extract an archive rather than browsing the source code online.

patio11 explained it best here, I think.

http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/01/24/startup-seo/

That said, we really need to at least put up the git browser so you can browse on the site. Thanks for the reminder.

Good writeup but long. Are you saying that keeping the code on your own site improves SEO?

It gets them backlinks.

You could use non blocking TCP, and not worry about where the listening process, and have some idea if there's problem.

Now, you're just ignoring the possibility of a problem, which might be fine and dandy, but you're not actually getting anything in return (well, about 5 lines of C code to set up the TCP connection in non-blocking mode, and tear it down if there's an error).

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