'Self driving' Tesla fails miserably on the streets of South Boston
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We also need more data on the capabilities and limitations of all sorts of self-driving or assisted vehicle modes. Based on the anecdotal evidence, most of seem to be as unhelpful as helpful… ie emergency braking when you don’t need it, assisted-steering that either fails completely or guides the car into the wrong lane
Mostly residential. Not too many cars or pedestrians. A modern, rational street grid with parking regulations obsessively enforced. Lots of double-parked delivery trucks, I'll grant - but that's very common these days. And it looks like FSD struggles majorly with them.
As a CEO of a major, publicly-traded company, Musk is a relatively unprecedented combination of arrogant, overrated, reckless, and dishonest.
I am enraged by Tesla's disregard for other drivers, shoddy build quality, blatant lies (ex: FSD labeling and failure to deliver), and toxic online fanbase. I think it's very reasonable for other people to be too.
Do you own a Tesla? Did you personally get scammed by them?
If not, it's deeply unhealthy for you to be enraged by something that doesn't even directly involve you.
Elon Musk is setting a terrifying precedent as the (usually) richest man in the world who is also a childish troll, self-dealer, and proud flouter of safety regulations.
It's not normal for a third party to get so upset over other peoples cars. Angry? Sure. Vexed? Why not. Annoyed? Absolutely. Enraged? Probably not. Incandescent? Nah.
It makes people in a democracy angry when someone who is unelected (and was born with a silver spoon in their mouth) becomes more powerful than the democracy. I wish I didn't have to care about Musk, but the various regulators who are supposed to stop him from pump-and-dump scams on Twitter and from releasing unsafe, shoddily-built cars are very slow to do anything to him.
> it's deeply unhealthy
Please spare the armchair analysis. It weakens your argument and is off-topic for HN. If you can't make your point without calling me mentally ill, you don't have a good point.
No, seriously. Healthy people are not "enraged" by things like these. I'm not trying to attack you, this isn't a criticism.
If you're enraged by some Tesla bullshit, what about all of the other significantly worse things in this world? It can't be nice to live like that, being constantly enraged and all.
There are worse things in the world, but salience isn't directly proportional to harm for anyone, including me. Otherwise, we'd all likely be paralyzed with rage over human rights in Syria or China.
Also, people can be angry at more than one thing, and it's not a permanent or constant state.
But everyone has their pet issues that really bother them, and there are worse issues than Musk (who symbolizes US oligarchy) to care about.
It's normal to be annoyed by something like this, but not to be put into a rage.
"Enraged" implies extreme uncontrollable anger, being sent into a rage, you think of something like The Big Lebowski car smashing scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0kfe5tkdD4
There are definitely situations where it's normal for someone to become enraged, but they're few and far between.
Had you actually bought a Tesla and felt seriously fucked over by your dealer, such uncontrollable anger might actually be a normal reaction. But when you're just a third party considering that others might get screwed like that, it would certainly be an overreaction.
E: I should apologize, I think my comments have been too easy to misinterpret. I originally intended to make a silly joke to poke fun at your misuse of one of the strongest words we have to express anger in the English language, but it just came across as mean instead of funny.
I'm sorry.
Teslas drive on public streets, unfortunately. So everyone who doesn't own a Tesla is still part of Elon's irresponsible experiements. Thus, have a right to an opinion or even outrage.
I don't own a Tesla but I've been brake checked by their phantom braking so I care.
For a user base that should be ahead of the curve it seems to be often behind it in important technologies. Not sure why, maybe posts like this attract the critics to pile on.
It’s like a lot of you can’t see progress happening in front of your faces.
HN used to be hugely pro-Tesla. You wouldn't go a day without seeing a pro-Tesla fluff piece. And that changed too, when reality set in and people realized that Tesla cars are poorly built compared to all of their domestic competitors, and after Musk repeatedly over-promised and under-delivered.
Between the FSD problems, the joke that is Cybertruck, and Elon Musk, Tesla's been doing a great job of turning away potential customers who are now looking at anything but Tesla.