Practicing 2000 hrs (The Dan Plan: a 10,000 hr deliberate practice experiment)
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I've been following his blog with interest, and he's now crossed the 20% mark. Honestly, I'm pretty impressed with where he is, given so much time to go.
Previous discussion:
A majority of people who play a sport (or learn any skill for that matter) are specifically not deliberate about their practice, and hence never surpass mediocrity. Within the first 50 hours or so (varies greatly depending on complexity of the skill), many of the actions required for a majority of the skill become automatic and learning slows significantly as a result. People highly skilled in something naturally (or consciously) never fully sink down in comfort and automatism, and remain deliberate and conscious about becoming better at every sub-skill within the greater.
The guy attempting the 10,000 hours (supposedly, I haven't been following him to determine if it's true) is specifically talking about this latter form of practice. The person commenting may not fully understand how much more can be accomplished with heightened focus, determination, discernment, and deliberation.
Yes, he's very deliberate about it. IIRC, he has a top coach guiding all of his training, and the plan has been careful working away from the hole. So the first couple hundred hours (!) were all putting and then some chipping, doing careful drill after drill. Finally he can play most of the hole, albeit with only shorter distance clubs so far.
What I would love to understand is where exactly he was mentally prior to starting this challenge. Is he naturally a person who strives to grow even when tasks become automatic, or has the change of mindset been part of his training, and if so how did he make the mindshift change.
I have been playing the game for 20 years. My father was a semi-pro tournament player and I picked up a lot from watching him. I quickly became a "natural" (I really don't like that term, I just had a good base line to start learning from).
For years I just went out and played and did fairly good. Better than average. This year I decided to really focus on practicing so I can get to scratch and the gains I've seen in the last two months are huge. This year I have gone from hitting a 5 iron about 170 yards to 200+, consistently.
Starting to learn the game from the hole backwards is a great idea. When my game dropped off for a few years I stopped hitting anything longer than a 5 iron.
I hope he succeeds. I haven't read a real passion for the game in the posts I've read, though. Does he love it? I believe talent = passion + time spent.
The other thing most people don't realize is how much exponentially better the different levels are. A club champ is not much compared with a mini tour player. Mini tour players are no where near the nationwide tour guys, and the PGA players who can win, or finish top 10 consistently are really really good. If you look at the difference between the #1 world ranked Luke Donald vs John Daly currently ranked #652 there is a very small difference in key stats. Lukes scoring average is 69.47, Daly's is 72. Greens in regulation has Luke at 67.04% and Daly at 61.36%.
One big event in your personal life could totally shake up your ability to compete at these highest levels. Sergio Garcia had to take a year off after being dumped by Natalie Gulbis, and look at the downward spiral of Tiger. He may never gain the confidence to compete again.
I wish him luck but I would bet he couldn't break par on a reasonably tough course from a respectable tee after his 10k hours.
I don't think Dan is planning on becoming a top-10 contender on the PGA, I think he would just like to play a competitive game with them.
I would suggest that anyone who is ranked on the PGA, #652 on up, could be considered an expert in golf.
I hate that people so abuse the term exponential, but putting that aside, you're looking at this wrong. The skill gap between levels is smaller as you progress. The effort to hit the next level may grow drastically, but the acquired skills diminish.
Think about someone who's never played teeing off against a casual golfer. How horribly will they lose, while they struggle with the basics? Now the casual golfer against the serious amateur. How will the casual golfer fare? Now serious amateur vs club pro. And so on. At each stage, the more advanced person has a major advantage, but that advantage decreases as the levels advance.
As someone progresses through the learning process, they go from learning the basics, through competence, and eventually to mastery. During this they initially learn gross skills and finally learn the most delicate refinements. It's this way with every skill. If you had to wager on the underdog in a casual golfer vs club pro face-off or a club pro vs a national pro face-off, who would you pick?
I've played 14 holes of golf at even par, and once you start to approach a place you've never been before you tend to put immense pressure on yourself and make mistakes. The self awareness of achieving a new best score can prevent you from doing it. This gets harder over time as you improve. Breaking 80, breaking 75, breaking 70 are difficult not only because it is a tough game, but because it is easy to change the way you play depending on the circumstance and it is very hard to practice scoring, harder to practice not making a stupid triple bogy.
If you think i'm using exponential poorly, take a look at the USGA percentages for golfers better than scratch.
http://www.usga.org/handicapping/articles_resources/Men-s-US...
This argument doesn't make much sense to me, though. Why do you feel that the mental side of the game can't be taught or you can't practice getting better at strengthening that part of your game? Simply recognizing that there is a mental side to the game (like every sport) means that you can to try and control it and thereby practice managing it. This can be learned, every athlete learns it for every sport they play. The mental component is a large part to every sport. I have played several sports competitively and I can't think of a single sport that it isn't a component. One major failure caused me to be mentally timid in one sport I competed at a very high level in - could I have progressed past it? Yes, and I did at times but it still required work. But I could get passed it and perform.
For anyone with both passion and time I am sure they can achieve expert status. People are adaptable, if they really want to do it and have the time to spend they will do what it takes to succeed. That includes finding their own way to cope with the mental pressures.
He has a lot of time left and nothing I've seen seems to indicate he couldn't get it done - minus the one thing I'm still unclear on, if he truly has a passion for the game.
I think that passion part is key to becoming truly great. The passion drives the desire to practice, and practice well with large gains. During his time Hogan was known for practicing more than any other golfer, when he began to do really well on tour the other golfers started joining him so they could keep up. When asked how he was able to work so hard and practice so much he replied that he hard a hard time getting to sleep because he couldn't wait to get to the range in the morning to practice. Hogan was and still is known as the greatest ball striker ever.
Again, I believe that Talent = Passion + Time Spent. A component of passion is dedication and perseverance which he seems to have but there's something else that really drives it. Without it I think he's limited to what he can achieve.
Perhaps it's idealistic but I don't think anyone who lacks passion can hit like Hogan no matter how much time they spend. I'm sure they can become very good, but not like Hogan.
For the uninitiated, art: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Nw__K1myQ
[1] http://www.sportsscientists.com/2011/08/talent-training-and-...
I really wonder how being an amateur golfer would change the 10,000 hours - would it be a head start or would it hold someone back?
Ergo, if you've learned the game up to a certain skill level -- and then coasted at that skill level for decades -- you're going to need to rewire significantly engrained neural pathways in order to relearn the game and break through your plateau.
It also helps to be able to start young. Not only do you have more time on your hands when you're younger, but you learn more quickly. Your brain is much more plastic in childhood. Interestingly, in most of the "10,000 hours" case studies I've seen, the subject started practicing as a young kid. It's entirely possible that the learning curve is steepened or elongated for people who start as adults. A child might be able to go from beginner to master in 10,000 hours, but an adult might need many times that number of hours.
I began dancing Lindy Hop on 31st August 2009 and have been counting my hours (swing classes and dancing, not just lindy but also related styles) and I am not yet at the 1000 hour (almost there). I'm one of the most active dancers in the local scene and at 2nd or 3rd tier of the local dancers, the first being really good, so I have still lots of room to improve (not counting that I also go abroad).
He does about 4 hours a day of practice, that's 28 a week. Only in the most intensive workshops I have made those hours, and that wasn't deliberate practice.
I'll have to follow him just to motivate myself a bit more :D
So at the end of all this, he could end up a magnificent golfer, but still not win any PGA tours because the other golfers there are also magnificent players. I still have high hopes for him, though, and can't wait to see how it ends up!
I just started the experiment and do not have much online but if you're interested you can follow at http://theoutliers.com
Also, now I'm slightly inspired to work harder at getting better at things I care about by using deliberate practice. Granted, I won't stick with it even for 1000 hours. I'm very impressed with what he is doing.
It's too easy to watch top KR GM's stream and the hours just pass by.
That said, I'm not trying to downplay what he is doing, I think it's pretty amazing.