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What really scares me is that in Wayland programs must do their own window management. I realy hate when a program decides that it shall change position or shape on the screen or when it decides to draw on the titlebar making window operations like maximizing a pain.

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Have you heard about GNOME's Client-Side Decorations Initiative? The gist is that GNOME does not want to implement/maintain window decorations (title bars, minimize/maximize buttons) in their Wayland compositor, so instead (in typical GNOME fashion) they want every other Linux desktop app to add code to draw decorations themselves (in whichever style they want).

https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/CSD

Then why do they want clients to use Gnome (indtead of other libraries) ? When every program does what he wants why do we need a "Desktop environment " ?

Despite being one of the most powerful, well-funded projects in the desktop Linux space, the GNOME devs runs a notorious "my way or the highway" policy that consistently makes it increasingly difficult for smaller teams to develop their own desktops. Components like libadwaita, Flatpak, Wayland, and GTK4 only further contribute to this initiative. Don't just take my word for it though, ask anyone on Linux developing desktop apps: GNOME has been driving a wedge between developers for a while now.

Now you're starting to understand why some of us don't want to have Gnome anywhere near our Linux desktops when every bit of functionality that we actively use gets deprecated and removed. I loved my Linux desktop back in the early '00s when Gnome and Enlightenment provided configurable window decorations and transparent terminals, but all that configurability in Gnome has been hidden and then ripped out over the past 20 years of "progress".

Three cheers for ostracizing your userbase and shrinking your development team down to an authoritarian handful of members that doesn't care about your opinions!

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