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ABUS locks should be avoided. The family that owns the company is part of the Christian Plymouth Brethren movement. Female family members are prevented from having the same participation rights, going so far as to “incentivize” them to sign contracts in which they waive their inheritance rights.

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What alternative should be purchased instead? Lead with that information, otherwise you're not helping the person who is looking to buy a lock.

I'm increasingly growing incredibly numb to calls for "don't associate with X because of Y". If you want my attention come to me with "Rather than associate with X check out Z, they offer the same service/product but aren't associated with Y".

I do not have the time, energy, or interest in morally auditing every company that I do business with (like buying a freaking padlock from).

ABLOY locks: https://www.abloy.com/global/en-us

They are pretty much the gold standard for locks. They are not unpickable, but take a considerable amount of skill and specialized tooling to crack.

LockPickingLawyer picking an ABLOY lock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfUmcMzx08

I agree with your point, however I am not an expert in locks and therefore didn't want to make a recommendation.

Interesting. I'd never heard of this sect. Also not allowed to live on the same land as their cattle. Always fascinating to read the rules and behaviors of these outlier communities.

Do you have a source for that?

Unfortunately it's paywalled and in German, but according to an interview and investigation done by Süddeutsche Zeitung, they are indeed part of the Plymouth Brethen: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/abus-unternehmer-reli...

So… how are their locks? Easy to pick? Fragile? High quality?

Seems appropriate to me as “Abus” is French for “abuse”.

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