Beyond that, I suspect nah…
Beyond that, I suspect nah…
Ivermectin failed in large studies with populations that didn't have worms.
The irrationality in this regard seems to match the irrationality of the concerns over masks in the pro Trump camp.
(I'm in the middle. Triple vaccinated, never took Ivermectin but find it really ugly that every single discussion about it ends in a flag, downvote and shouting competition that makes it impossible to find out what the facts are. The best I've found so far is Scott Alexanders findings but I guess there could be a lot more to learn if people weren't so busily either shouting or flaggind down the stories.)
https://ivmmeta.com provides an updated-weekly meta analysis following new publications and retractions showing significantly positive prophylactic efficacy over control in 83% of papers.
I think it is notable that you can go down the list of all the drugs on the right where they apply similar meta analysis to the treatments and they find that many drugs seem to be effective against covid. Even aspirin seems to treat covid effectively.
the same is true for my wife. 2 small anecdata points.
if you'd like more information about our doggie treats, so as to start a prophylactic course of treatment, please let me know.
It has not really been studied as a prophylactic as in this study.
[1] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20587392209599...
[2] https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-t...
By the MSM declaring Ivermectin to be dangerous, it makes their statements about the inefficiency seem suspect.
Along with "Taking ivermectin in dosages at for the body weight of large animals puts people at high risk of overdose." (Which many people have done)
Both of those statements seem true to me.
So we should follow the CDC recommended advice of not doing anything until it’s bad enough to be hospitalized as a good alternative?
>> Taking ivermectin in dosages at for the body weight of large animals puts people at high risk of overdose.
Are you talking about that single mass media article that was later completely retracted because it was discovered to have been completely made up, or are there other instances?
I think the relevant alternative in this case might be getting vaccinated (which presumably the CDC recommends) which is sufficient to avoid hospitalisation in most cases. It's not everyone, but a lot of the people promoting ivermectin seem to be motivated by wanting to avoid the vaccine.
It says it is dangerous to spread the lie that Ivermectin is useful in the treatment of Covid, especially over the proven methods and agents of prophylaxis and treatments.
You can't distinguish between "Ivermectin is dangerous" and "People took too much Ivermectin because they thought it cures Covid". Because the latter is true and happened a lot in the US. What also happens a lot in the US is that the same people who promote Ivermectin give a shit about proven vaccines, proven treatments and masks and so on.
Critique ivermectin but don’t do it my spreading misinformation.
CNN said it's not true. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/07/politics/fact-check-oklahoma-... USA Today Fact Check rated the claim as false: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/15/fac... AFP Fact Check false: https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252...
People often complain about mainstream media getting things wrong, but they generally overlook the fact that the editorless non-mainstream media gets far more stories wrong.
It would be very odd and surprising if a pharmaceutical with a completely different mechanism and purpose would just happen to inhibit coronavirus proteases.
This was only shown in a petri dish at very high concentrations. You could say the same about a number of chemicals which we also would not survive in that concentration.
I do not understand why people want Ivermectin to work so badly.
It seems to involve a story where they really shame some people for being stupid (the people don't actually have to be stupid, just should be presentable as such with loaded questions, clever editing... what have you) and then while the people are experiencing second hand embarassment for the person, feed them what they need to think to not be ridiculed in mass media like this. This seems to work way too well and it seems they use it ALL THE TIME. Almost every "comedy news show" or opinion piece seems to be formatted like this.
In Brazil, ivermectin working means the president was right. That's why there is such a big effort in Brazil to make it work.
Yeah, look at AZT as an example.
If you have a reference you could share, that would be helpful.
> Ivermectin does inhibit the same protease that PF-07321332 does, but, as is the case for viral replication, it requires a concentration that is not achievable by oral dosing.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/pfizer-new-covid-19-proteas...