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Thirty shots fired is not random. This isn't kids shooting at bottles in the backyard.

Feels like details here are being omitted.

If thirty shots can be fired in your neighborhood without an immediate and massive police response, you should move immediately.

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define immediate. it takes seconds to fire thirty rounds. it takes minutes for police to respond to anything

Ten to twenty minutes, and closing down the whole 1+ mile area, like it was a terrorist attack.

That would be the case in a civilized city/country. Else, it appears as if 30 gunshot rounds is like routine in that place, so it's a kind of shithole.

In the west coast city I lived in last year, it wasn’t uncommon (more than once per week easily) for people to drive around in trucks at night (or even in the day sometimes) and just unload magazines into the sky for no apparent reason. In any other country I’ve ever visited, this would result in a huge news response condemning the act along with a significant police response. I never even saw most of these on the news or saw any significant police response.

In some Arab countries this is a normal day time activity often done during weddings.

Well we don't need the police to scoop up the bullets out of the air. If they can get there within 20 minutes, and find a pile of shell casings and dudes with warm guns in their posession, and sulphur smoke in the air, maybe they can do something as a deterrent to future cases, such as presenting all of them to the DA with a nice bow on top.

When seconds count police are minutes away.

the police were already responding to the gunfire as the girlfriend was calling 911

30 is not that much if someone nearby is doing target practice. They're going to get someone killed some day, but the police don't care.

"They're going to get someone killed some day..."

Most of the time - no. Most farms I know of have a good backstop, consistent with any "official" gun range.

There's kinds of farms. The kind nearby is the kind someone buys because they're rich enough to own a farm without caring about paying for it with the farm. A farm for someone who can't bridge the gap between their self-identification as a working-class conservative and the amount of money they have.

I checked the particular neighborhood in the article, and it's all single-family homes, so probably someone in their backyard goofing off. A neighbor in a similar place liked to run around shooting squirrels with a pistol. The police never showed up. It was an awkward, anxious few years before he moved out. He also liked to shoot bottle rockets without regard for direction. I got buzzed a few times.

Georgia is a land of contrasts.

From the article:

> Shepard, whose apartment is in the Atlanta suburb of Brookhaven, who told the television station that the couple woke up on Jan 16 to the sound of more than 30 gunshots coming from an apartment complex directly behind Shepards.

Seems pretty clear that this wasn't a case of someone target shooting with an insufficient backstop.

Pretty sure the comment i was responding to mentioned people on farms (not related to the article), but is now edited.

The edit came before your comment, but you must have had the page open already. The downside of HN being one of the last remaining major web 1.0 sites that doesn't change everything right under your efforts to interact with it.

This happened in Atlanta (technically Brookhaven). The police were looking for the source of gunfire reported at the 3600 block of Buford Highway [0] and the 911 call related to the shooting came from the 3100 block of Clairmont Rd.

There are some single family homes in the area, but it's not low density suburbs or a rural area.

As I said in another comment, this sort of thing is unfortunately not uncommon in Atlanta. My wife is an attorney and has worked on several lawsuits arsing from stray bullets hitting people inside in their apartments. For whatever reason, knuckleheads go out in the parking lot or the nearby wooded area and shoot off their guns. Tragically and inevitably someone gets hurt or killed.

[0] https://www.google.com/maps/place/3600+Buford+Hwy+NE,+Atlant...

[1] https://www.google.com/maps/place/3100+Clairmont+Rd,+Atlanta...

Pretty sure the comment I was responding to mentioned people on farms (not related to the article), but is now edited.

> If thirty shots can be fired in your neighborhood without an immediate and massive police response, you should move immediately.

rephrasing: if thirty shots can be fired and nothing ever changes and the same things keep happening again and again, you should move ASAP, I agree.

You should move abroad to a more civilized country.

EDIT: this happened a month ago.

https://www.ansa.it/english/news/general_news/2021/12/03/col...

USA is no country for civilized people.

TBF some of them are dangerous even outside of their borders

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/world/europe/americans-mu...

In 2021 the whole EU (population 448 millions) registered ~3.5k homicides.

USA (population 332 millions)? > 20k (+29% compared to 2020, during a pandemic, while in the rest of the World homicide stats went down considerably)

I was going to reply that this sort of thing isn't all that uncommon here in Atlanta. Then I clicked the link and saw this this happened in Brookhaven, which is formerly a neighborhood of Atlanta proper. <sigh>

Quote from TFA: "Police were in the vicinity pursuing reports of gunfire when the 911 call from Shepard came in."

If you expect police to do anything to help you, you'd probably have to move into the whitehouse.

As someone living in a relatively poor state, thirty shots is just another normal night.

The police doesn’t do shit.

What are these people aiming at?

How else would you keep the house prices from skyrocketing /s

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