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The US is not a third world country, it's just a heavily armed country. They are not the same thing.

Guns are not the problem in themselves. Other countries do just fine with free gun laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzer...

> To carry a firearm in public or outdoors (and for a militia member to carry a firearm other than his issued weapons while off-duty), a person must have a gun carrying permit (German: Waffentragbewilligung, French: permis de port d'armes, Italian: permesso di porto di armi; art. 27 WG/LArm), which in most cases is issued only to private citizens working in occupations such as security.[6] It is, however, quite common to see a person in military service or a sport shooter to be en route with his rifle, albeit unloaded. The issue of such exceptional permits are extremely selective (see #Conditions_for_obtaining_a_Carrying_Permit).

There are significant differences between US and Swiss gun laws though. In particular, actually carrying a gun is typically not allowed. In Switzerland, a gun is something you keep in your house and carry to the firing range or with you on your hunting trip, and that's it.

This is a huge difference in both mentality and legislation; the "free gun laws" in Switzerland are not the same "free gun laws" as in many US states.

Switzerland is also heavily armed country. It’s not an argument here.

Sorry, I dont understand. You're saying that because Switzerland is a heavily armed country also that means the US is a third world country?

No, they're saying that the US being heavily armed isn't the only explanation for why someone gets killed by a stray bullet in Atlanta.

Ah, ok - Thank you!

Definitely not a 3rd world country. My US friends do not have guns. Just other countries force more responsibility with them.

Switzerland is 75% Swiss and about 90% European.

and you're 100% racist.

There are less gun related deaths in morocco than there are in the united states[1][2]. Are moroccans simply inherently more trustworthy and responsible than americans? How about nicaraguans? cubans? tunisians? tanzanians? algerians? vietnamiese? indonesians? equadorians?

1: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-death... 2: https://www.smallarmssurvey.org/database/global-violent-deat...

Sorry to hear that your cult ideology is failing to suppress reality. What's the corruption index on the countries you listed with "low gun related deaths"? Oops, they're all below 50. And half are surrounded by countries with gun violence rates that are 5-10x higher than the US. Significantly higher when you break up US gun violence by race. Extremely significant when you use data from before states started reporting hispanic gun violence as white.

Less gun deaths and homicide in general almost everywhere that is not in the middle of a civil war/armed conflict. Tunisia, Ghana, China, India, etc... All safer than the US and most European countries.

4 more countries with corruption indexes around 40. Chinese bureaucrats definitely reporting statistics accurately. Just like their 0 new cases of Corona. But you're right, India is definitely safer (if you're a rapist).

"Corruption index" is a western scam. The US is one of the most corrupt countries in the world but the billions (maybe trillions now?) of dollars per annum of corrupt activity is considered legal if structured in specific ways. No serious person believes those rankings.

Gun violence statistics are a western scam to push gun confiscation. You think tourism countries like Nicaragua and Costa Rica are incentivized to report every gun crime?

I undertsand that half of the annual US police-on-civilian murders werent categorized as such for over 20 years. The US seems to have some incentives to hide this data as well.

I'm assuming most of the misdisclosed/undisclosed murders were gun deaths.

A recent article stated half the annual police on civilian murders werent categorized as such for over 20 years. The US seems to have some incentive to hide this data as well.

I'm assuming most of the misdisclosed/undisclosed murders were gun deaths.

Parts of it are indistinguishable from the 3rd world. Parts of it are high trust and high culture. I've spent a good portion of my 20s doing urban exploration photography and traveling.

I agree with that, but we have to agree that that is different than just saying the entire country is third world.

Definitely agree.

Exactly. I think it is hard for someone who has never lived here and especially those that have never "slummed it" and had very rich friends to grasp the vast vast heterogeneity of this country.

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