I used to work at a company that had a hiring pipeline that took people with zero skills and trained them up to high paid tech workers in a few short years.
It haunts me I can't convince more people to pursue this path.
Here is entry-level US: 31000-45000$ in VA [0]
Experience in orbit analysis and prediction Familiarity with a scripting language (i.e. Perl, Python)
Second one 55000-65000$ in CO[1]
work ethic (~60-70 hours/week)
Experience programming in C, C++, Fortran (lol), Python, MATLAB and/or UNIX or kernels
Am I missing something?
[0] https://www.simplyhired.com/job/2vDPHRlmzl3C2V4hIDXUDxGjiy3t...
[1] https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=astrodynamics&l=&job=TC...
And then there's biological systems that are way more complex.
Linode is an example.
Regarding top metro regions though you can get started without a CS degree and without a bootcamp in tech support and make your way toward programming. But companies in the top metro regions tend to require _some_ degree whereas companies in the lesser metros are more fine with just work experience (like retail at Best Buy), intelligence and enthusiasm.
Methodologies and scale are growing which means more developers. Markets are expanding where "everything" is becoming software driven. Generally, give me more programmers and I'll give you more things that need programming. Our world has barely begun automation.
In an effort to overcome our subconscious loss aversion with data, we should back test these hypotheses. If you do that, you will see that every time someone has suggested a specific thing was going to result in fewer programmer jobs they have been quite wrong.
Now we need to weigh the very real negative of screwing over other people who would like to also earn a decent income against the total lack of evidence that this will be bad for existing programmers.
Do what your conscience tells you, I'm going to try and get other people to program.
That said, why is it unethical not actively trying to persuade other people to program? There's a considerable spectrum between "hostile gatekeeping" and "evangelism". What about not discouraging nor encouraging anyone? How many doctors do you find "trying to get other people to medical profession"?
It is unethical, as I said in the post you originally replied to, to pull the ladder up after you. That is very clearly what was being suggested. I maintain that we should each do as our conscience guides.
In answer to the question about doctors, tons of them. I personally know several who go to school career days and job fairs and evangelize the medical profession. There are also many who volunteer with charities targeting underrepresented minority evangelism specifically. I have worked with many such charities in a limited capacity to help them make their technology work better. In my discussions with them, many doctors share my feeling that our positions are a great blessing and that being in this position gives us an obligation to help as many others as we can.
Finally, I'll say that in my opinion letting yourself off the hook because "nobody else does it either" is a pretty thin reed. If you don't want to help, that's your choice. I hope if you need help someday, others are more generous.
Any advice would be appreciated-