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Everyone I know that is getting COVID-19 lately is vaccinated. Everyone I know that didn't get vaccinated hasn't even been sick.

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The article starts with a statistic (as opposed to anecdote):

> These findings demonstrate that such cases and hospitalizations have occurred in New York State, but at levels substantially lower than among unvaccinated people

Of course, one could argue that New York State doesn't make a large scale statistic, but it's still far from being anecdata.

"Everyone I know" is anecdotal and most people that use this language are outright lying. Trump is an expert at "They're saying things are bad" and of course some people believe this nonsense. "Everyone" and "They" are propaganda tools.

Make a claim. Provide the evidence.

Otherwise you're just one of the people that refuses to accept reality.

What a ridiculous comment. The OP is not "denying reality" if his experience is as he stated. On the contrary, he would be denying reality if he would believe his observations have to be wrong.

It is not reasonable to ask for "evidence" for his observations, either, as that is impossible to provide. Not even the article posted here provides any evidence, you just chose to trust them as an institution.

He did not write an article for publication, it is just a comment in an internet forum. It is absolutely OK to report personal experiences in that context.

Your criticism comes across as very close to what you're criticising. You've provided only your anecdotal evidence, whilst creating another "they" - "one of those people" - that you same-breath decry as the tool of propagandists.

Did you even read the article you posted below (since flagged, not by me)? It outlines the study's results, which very clearly say that the results only show that omicron is effective at evading vaccines, and do not indicate any increased susceptibility based on vaccine use. It describes its results as "a measure of how well Omicron evades the vaccines compared to Delta." It also states, "from our recent characteristics release, we also see that unvaccinated people overall are more likely to test positive for COVID-19, regardless of variant" (emphasis mine). Not to mention the test-hesitancy of the un-vaccinated population. You need to stop spreading misleading interpretations.

Did you read it? It shows that triple boosted had a higher rate of contracting Omicron than unvaxxed. Funny how if it said the opposite, even hypothetically, that they'd be screaming it far and wide as facts and using it for fact checking, but if it indicates the opposite, then we can't draw any conclusions.

Yes I did, and you are still misinterpreting its results. Omicron is more prevalent because it’s the one with the most vaccine breakthrough potential. In a vaccinated individual, omicron is the variant with the highest probability to be present. In the unvaccinated population, you all variants are competing for same infection, and you have a higher overall risk of infection regardless of variant.

Did the downstream thread get flagged? I replied to this comment and I only see 3-4 replies now. I can still view my own comment in context but it isn’t appearing.

What can we conclude / what should we do based on this information?

We can conclude that information used for statistics is easily manipulated, and if it indicates something, even hypothetical, that supports vaccines then it is considered unquestionable fact that vaccines are the only solution, but if it indicates negatives about vaccines, then we shouldn't draw any conclusions.

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