Are warp drives science now?
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If/When AI takes over, it will likely be quite content with taking 10,000 years to go to the distant stars. It will also likely be more capable of breaking off a piece of itself and launching it at 1/10th C in order to get around relatively quickly.
It could "colonize" the entire galaxy in 10 million years - which is an acceptable time scale for it given that it has no finite lifespan.
It is our biological limitations that fixate us on faster-than-light travel. ...something the rest of the universe probably doesn't think too much about.
1. Computing machinery is made of physical matter, which means it degrades.
2. The large scale economy required to support, repair and upgrade it also requires many input materials.
3. Those materials are exhaustable and finite, which means, the AI will eventually exhaust its supply of "stuff". If that happens before it's able to expand into new areas, then it dies.
BTW I wonder what they're going to do about the possibility of plowing into a small rock fragment at several times the speed of light?
If they can't solve this problem traveling at these velocities would essentially mean playing Russian Roulette with the probability of the crew dying at any moment.
|---o------o------------o------| normal distance
|o--o---o--| warped distance
o = objects you might bump into. So you will be traveling the same "speed" relative to the objects, but they will be closer.The thought did occur to me that the the probe may even map the entire route using sensors and develop a temporal computer model for just how much time the route will still be safe to travel. But then I realised that the warp drive bends space-time, distorting photographs and other sensors.
Failing this, we decide to only use warp drive in parts of space that are very well mapped. It would allow instantaneous travel throughout the solar system, which would facilitate trade and colonisation. But warping into the dark unknown would be foolish.
Could you fly the ship at 5*warp and then have a drone canary in a squiggle/back and forth pattern at 50*warp in front of the ship?
If it hits something, depending on how warp works, you may be able to instantly stop the ship?
Though I suppose at least you can conceivably hope to detect them since you can actually see them at all since the approach is subluminal.
They will use superintelligent AI to pilot the ship and it will avoid obstacles automatically.
[Edit: jokes aside, a warp drive doesn't move the ship. It only distorts the spacetime around it. So there's no danger of hitting anything. Effectively, the ship remains immobile inside its little warp bubble and the warp bubble is displaced along space without actually moving. You know, like cats.]
This is Randall Garrett's "Time Fuze", first published in IF, March 1954.
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/203584/short-story...
I'm more interested in the idea that, the longer your FTL leg, the less well you're able to see where you're going - not that that's likely often necessary for starships any more than for sailing vessels, but you can think of circumstances in which it might matter. Too, it might come to be considered unneighborly to take too direct a course anywhere, lest you inadvertently Kessler-spray your destination.
Insystem use of the drive would be most complicated by this in general, especially since there's rarely much point in visiting stars without lots of rocks around them. You might also not be able to make sharp maneuvers in FTL, hence needing to plan legs with care not only for safety, but to minimize time and reaction mass spent on slow thruster rendezvous maneuvers. This has implications for travel time, navigation in general, and thus implicitly for supply chain logistics, travel time, and thus what's feasible both economically and politically - especially should it coincide with the absence of any FTL comms cheaper and faster than "record a message and then have a packet boat take it where it needs to go".
Also, in the case of hitting a rock with sufficient kinetic energy it will become atomized. A cloud of fast moving space dust would burn in the upper atmosphere.
So the dust is now moving at beyond light speed but without the protective effects of time inside the bubble?
We know what happens to matter at those speeds, it becomes infinitely "heavy" and would experience time in relative light-years (I mean time-to-travel at light speeds) no?
However here’s the paper from the University of Sidney that goes into much greater detail.
pdf warning https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.5708v1.pdf
From the paper:
> These results suggest that any ship using an Alcu- bierre warp drive carrying people would need shielding to protect them from potential dangerously blueshifted particles during the journey, and any people at the des- tination would be gamma ray and high energy particle blasted into oblivion due to the extreme blueshifts for P+ region particles.
I don't think we do know what happens. Relativistic mass approaches infinity at exactly c. Beyond c we obviously have no data, but if we just apply the same equations the relativistic mass would drop back to a finite value. A finite complex value.
Changes to the shape of space-time willl still only travel at the speed of light, so I don't see how that would enable you to travel faster than light for any meaningful distance, as the warp bubble itself would be unable to keep up with the vehicle.
But the spacetime is so distorted that a photon will start orbiting the singularity, thus it doesn’t get out of the event horizon.
The link you post describes a region in certain conditions where light can orbit not that that is the fate of all light falling into a black hole.the end talks about the always orbitally unstable regions beneath that being referred to here.
The expansion of the universe can be faster than the speed of light. Would it be possible to use that to create FTL travel?
Mathematician: "Absolutely."
Physicist: "Sure! actually no."
Engineer: "No way in hell. Go play with a blockchain."
Zefram Cochrane: "I already built it."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propuls...
Why would removing this be a benefit? It means when you arrive at your destination you are older than you would have been if you had the normal time dilation, and if you head back, the people will have aged just as much in your round trip as normal, the only difference is that you’ve also aged as much as they have.
Right?
If you have a non-accelerating subliminal warp bubble, and you shift to a frame of reference where it is not moving, then wouldn’t you just get a region where time moves more quickly? Or.. ?
Either what I said is completely wrong, or this is completely wrong. I think it is the latter.
You experiencing time dilation doesn’t make it so when you get to your destination, people have aged more. It makes it so you have aged less. If the round trip takes 2 years from the perspective of an external stationary observer, because it is a round trip of like, 0.9 light years in both directions, Then by the time you get back, people have aged 2 years. Removing the time dilation in the ship just makes is so the people on the ship also aged 2 years instead of less than that.
That’s not really helpful.
Unless you can go faster than c, you can’t go 50 light years away and come back to people having aged less than 100 years. If you did, you would have gone faster than c. Basically by definition of speed?
If you go to Europa and then head back, Joe here on earth will have aged the same amount by the time you get back. The only difference is whether you aged the same amount as Joe, or less than Joe did.
The warp bubble doesn’t make you miss any more of Joe’s life. It just changes what ages you are when you experience the parts of Joe’s life that you do. (Specifically, warp bubble makes you age more quickly, same rate as Joe)
To me this seems like the logical next step after using chemical rockets to populate a moonbase. Plop some big lasers on the moon and use them to push things really fast. No weird physics needed, just improvements on what we already have.
> After years of producing null results, improved detectors became operational in 2015. On 11 February 2016, the LIGO-Virgo collaborations announced the first observation of gravitational waves, from a signal (dubbed GW150914) detected at 09:50:45 GMT on 14 September 2015 of two black holes with masses of 29 and 36 solar masses merging about 1.3 billion light-years away. During the final fraction of a second of the merger, it released more than 50 times the power of all the stars in the observable universe combined. The signal increased in frequency from 35 to 250 Hz over 10 cycles (5 orbits) as it rose in strength for a period of 0.2 second. The mass of the new merged black hole was 62 solar masses. Energy equivalent to three solar masses was emitted as gravitational waves.
I'm not sure where you're getting this from, but it is nothing like our current understanding of gravitational waves. Nor did the black hole merger you describe, which was detected by LIGO, do anything like what you describe.
"Are warp drives science?" does not make grammatical sense, as the word "science" was previously describing what type of fiction it was.
The new sentence should read something like "are warp drives science fact now?"
Science is a process, not a thing. The term science fiction describes fictions based around the process, or a faux process that seems realistic or may be in the future.
If we were to take the same meaning of science as ascribed by the author here, my interpretation is they are equating the word "science" with something like "fact, truth, or reality". Following this, if the then ask what the phrase "science fiction" means in this context, we get "truth fiction"? "reality fiction"? These things don't make much sense to me.