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My perception of Apple’s (software) engineering capabilities comes from being their customer and using their products daily.

This might be different if I had some perception of what was happening internally or how problems are approached. But from what I see nobody at Apple cares. So the silence contributes to the perception of incompetence by not counter-acting it.

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As engineers, we all know that there are different circumstances. Sometimes they are technical, sometimes political. I would say we should always assume goodwill, unless proven wrong. This is irrespective of whether we talk about Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook or any other company.

> As engineers, we all know that there are different circumstances. Sometimes they are technical, sometimes political.

Agree. I'm just curious what it is at Apple. Their hardware seems fine, even excellent. But the software is really not at the same level. So I wonder how that happens.

> But from what I see nobody at Apple cares. So the silence contributes to the perception of incompetence by not counter-acting it.

There isn’t silence though. The world doesn’t begin and end at Hacker News. Head over to Twitter, for instance, and you’ll see plenty of Apple developers talking about their work. Or join the WebKit mailing lists or Slack. Or join the Swift forums.

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