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For example, "björntjänst" under Swedish. If you actually check the Reddit post, you can see that people have posted "niedźwiedzia przysługa" (Polish), "Bärendienst" (German), "medveđa usluga" (Serbocroatian) and "bjørnetjeneste" (Norwegian) as the literal same word. I can also confirm that the Finnish "karhunpalvelus" is also a literal one-to-one translation.
Same in Russian: медвежья услуга (/mʲɪˈdvʲeʐjə ʊˈsluɡə/ in IPA)
To claim otherwise would be like saying that the concept of chile pepper can only be expressed in Nahuatl.
I’m a native English speaker and I’ve never heard of the expression “Joie de vivre”, so I don’t understand how “Joie de vivre” is the English translation of “Joie de vivre”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joie%20de%20vivre
This one’s on you. Here’s a helpful list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_French_expressio...
https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=Joie+de+vivr...
It's one of those weird specific words that you use to show that you're smarter than you are (this doesn't apply to Stephen Fry of course :D )
From a French perspective though it’s mixed French/English until the end which would be entirely French.
And below, a broken banner for "Take back the Web, Get Firefox".
Complete with a link to spreadfirefox.com that seems to be broken.
But well done for so densely packing French loan words (loan phrases?) into a single paragraph!
One funny thing I've noticed with French EFL speakers of medium proficiency is that they too think all those loanwords from French aren't English words. It's always fun to troll them dropping a en route and look at their reaction.
It has been estimated that English has more than a million words, what percentage do you think you actually know?
> Typically native speakers know 15,000 to 20,000 word families - or lemmas - in their first language.
Sounds about right to me.
Then there's plenty examples where a direct English equivalent exists even if it's not a literal translation of the original: nachäffen (de) = na-apen (nl) = mimicking (en), but English lacks the animal connotation (Affe == aap == ape); schwarzfahren (de) = zwartrijden (nl) = fare dodging (en), but English loses the colour in the expression (Schwarz == zwart == black).
Funny thing also that it lists the Spanish "sobremesa" as after-dinner conversation, then lists the Dutch "natafelen" as lingering after having finished dinner, continuing conversation. The two are equivalent expressions, except that one is a noun and one is a verb. Same for "fremdschämen" (de) and "vergüenza ajena" (es), which is known in Dutch as "plaatsvervangende schaamte".
Even here, english has the term 'aping': https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aaping, with the same meaning and retains the same animal connotation.
I'm not sure of the origin, but "lust for life" is an expression that's been used in English for at least a century, it seems. It was the name of a biography of Vincent Van Gogh.
The earliest reference on this page seems to be a German film, so maybe it comes from German: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lust_for_Life
Hmm, maybe it goes back further - Google Books seems to have some instances from the 19th century. A few are negative, basically using the phrase to mean being worldly and not spiritual, a bad thing or even a "curse".
In that sense it wouldn't seem to be the same meaning, but maybe it changed over time.
heck, i'd argue that most abstract words are just close-ish approximations, which can be used to convey the same thing, but are also useable in different contexts with significantly changed meaning.
Take yesterday's wordle for example: tangy. few languages have something that maps onto exactly this meaning. Its still easy to translate it with a sentence, but its likely going to be more than one word. And the chosen translation will likely change significantly depending on the context the word is used in.
A literal or detailed and contextful translation does not express the same "feeling" as in the native tongue, which you could argue as a what is impossible to translate.
Instead the subreddit's description[0] is a far better description, and the discussion on each phrase about possible translations or similar ideas in different languages is a lot of fun!
[0]: Post quirky and niche words/phrases from foreign languages that can't easily be translated.
Yiddish has good examples where words actually do not translate easily. EG, schmendrick and schmuck both translate as "a fool", but have distinct shades of meaning that aren't trivially explained. "Nu" is an interjection that has several specific meanings that require long examples to explain, EG: https://forward.com/culture/12736/just-say-nu-01335/
If you like that kind of stuff I highly recommend The Joys Of Yiddish https://www.amazon.com/Joys-Yiddish-Leo-Rosten-1968-06-23/dp...
I saw this shared on reddit a few days ago, it's a cool idea but the actual words... there exist very few that are actually untranslateable. If you know more than one or two languages, you probably spot some of them pretty fast. (It's funny you mention specifically -ish, that's one of the words I was skeptical about and clicked through to the thread on, and thus knew that people in the thread mentioned various translations.)
The about page mentions that this is a UI for the subreddit of the same name, which is focused on "Post quirky and niche words/phrases from foreign languages that can't easily be translated."
Personally the discussion for possible translations is far more interesting than the slightly misleading subreddit and site name.
blue -> bluish => sininen -> sinisehkö
formal -> formalish => muodollinen -> muodollisehko
apparent -> apparent-ish => ilmeinen -> ilmeisehkö
compressable -> compressablish => pakkautuva -> pakkautuvahko
s/Esperantists/English-speakers/ and "non-English"
AFAIK, the English language is very verbose. If there are so many words, many of which have very similar meaning to others, then many of those words are not needed? Should be removed, even, until everyone forgets them and doesn't miss them at all?
"Very similar" is not the same as "identical". Having multiple words with similar, but not identical, meanings allows you to express more detailed nuances and shades of meaning.
> Should be removed
Language is an emergent social phenomenon, not something anyone really controls or directs, so what “should” be done with it is a bit meaningless.
I wonder if that wouldn't be the actual rare words, not just words that translate, but in which all the meanings of a word in translating language are the same as the meanings of the word in the target language.
on edit: consider Hov in Danish which the page says does not translate, but I think in English Whoa can handle all permutations of Hov, but I don't think Hov really handles the Keanu Reaves type of Whoa. Thus Hov can translate to English, but Whoa cannot translate to Danish by this kind of strict translation.
But if we just accept that the most common meaning of a word a needs to translate then Hov and Whoa can both translate to each other, IMHO.
They list “te quiero” as meaning “I love you but not quite. Which is a mistranslation. It literally translates as “I love you”. But at the same time you have “te amo”, which also translates to “I love you” yet they are two different phrases with different meanings.
When I first started dating someone who is natively bilingual in English and (Northern Mexican) Spanish, she didn’t yet feel strongly enough about me to say “I love you” in English, so she always told me “te quiero”, as there was no English phrase other than “I love you” that fit in that niche.
It's interesting from the point of view of English and Russian. When we tal about people:
- In English `love` can be used for both romantic and non-romantic love.
- In Russian `love` (especially nowadays) feels to be almost exclusively either romantic or family-related (love between parent-child, between siblings etc.). You can't really tell your friend you love them :) It's weird
You might say in English to a friend "I love you" meaning "I'm bemused by your quirks, but I'm fond of you anyway".
I wonder how that translates.
“Te quiero” is an extremely common stock phrase in Spanish, whereas nobody really says “I care about you” in English, so I think that choice of “the best translation” is unsatisfying.
Source: direct first hand experience.
> Concepts in Swedish That are difficult to easily and directly translate to other languages.
Of course you can explain the concept in English, but you couldn't replace it with a simple translation when used in a sentence. Of course it's just a matter of degree since most words have slightly different connotations in different languages, but I found the lists entertaining and insightful.
The quality of the entries vary, of course, but that's not an issue with the premise…
My primary objection to this entire exercise is that it implies a linguistic preciousness that is really quite superficial. It also implies that “some languages are more cut out than others for certain purposes” and this is absolutely not the case. All languages are equally capable of meaning, and the fact that one language has one word for something and another uses many words for the same thing… that itself doesn’t “mean” anything about either language. It barely says anything about the cultures that use that language.
"Tall", "You're welcome". I'm sorry what?
I guess that in English speaking countries it could mean literally to go to buy a cup of coffee and hurry back with the coffee to your desk. Wouldn't 'to for a beer' have the same implications, maybe with more noise, than fika but with beer instead of coffee and cookies?
And that it can be used as a verb and as a noun. Russian speakers in Sweden have adopted the word `fika`, and now use it as a Russian word, too :D
Sure, you could skip it, but any swede who hears that word will know that a break like it should be combined with some kind of drink and/or snack.
My question: Is there an English word for the effect one experiences when consuming wasabi or horseradish?
The chemical responsible is isothiocyanate.[1] It's not capsaicin which is what makes peppers hot, so the Scoville Scale[0] doesn't apply to the pain of horseradish. BTW, sichuan peppers aren't capsaicin based either and they share something with some African spices that also chemically numb the tongue, but that's also not what's going on in horseradish or (true) wasabi.
Anyways, words in the ballpark are spicy or hot or painful or pungent but those seem a bit ambiguous. IMO, pungent doesn't satisfy because while it captures the sharp smell it seems to ignore the pain or heat of the experience. And spicy or hot in English strongly suggest the effect of peppers IMO, which can be misleading if you are describing horseradish.
Failing English, I'd love to know a Japanese or Mandarin word for this!
Other languages, or English? Because I can definitely come up with some non-English translations to some of the words here. For example, "Haju" and "Tuoksu" in Finnish are "臭い" and "匂い" in Japanese. Swedish "mellandagarna" is also pretty much word-for-word "välipäivät" in Finnish.
I'd argue English has a perfectly fine translation given the right context: "glee".
E.g. He watched her fall with glee.
Long and extended are synonyms when talking about length, but not family for example.
W.V.O. Quine made some remarkable points about translation [1], although not all philosophers (cf. John Searle) agree that the scenarios he suggested are as problematic as he contended.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminacy_of_translation
Even if the mapping between languages is surjective, certain ideas and phrases are difficult to translate whilst maintaining the succinctness of dialogue and are practically difficult to translate.
Considering translatability as a spectrum obviously "does not translate" is a hyperbole, and shouldn't be taken literally at face value. Hopefully you'd agree that most words on this list are at least on the difficult end of the spectrum.
Random example: "work/life balance"
"Q: Comment ça va?
A: Ça va."
It struck me many years later, that people at work were saying almost a literal translation in English: "How goes it?"
"It goes."
To my knowledge, they weren't Francophones and I never heard any French there.The only ones I didn't know how to translate into English could likely be translated into another language.
Would be interested to now if anyone else here knows a proper translation for:
"Orka": closest I can think of is "can't be bothered". British English does have "arsed", but it is far too informal and can't be used on its own.
"Vabba": "Skipping work to watch your kid" and as the reddit thread for it says, if it had a straight translation it would be "CoCing" which wouldn't appropriate.
But recently I started working a place here in Norway where all communication is in English. Speaking English but often in a Norwegian context, have made me sometimes grasp for these kind of words. Like "romjul" when trying to ask who is gonna be oncall this christmas. Or asking if people are going to "Syden" during their summer holidays.
Syden is not on the page, but is generally when you travel south (italy, spain, greece) to lie on a beach and drink cheap alcohol.
Spanish -eico, -izo...
>Paragrafryttare. A person who follows written rules to such a degree that they're seen as rigid and inflexible.
Tiquismiquis.
>Cornuto. To have horns, meaning that you (or a particular person) has been cheated on by their spouse or significant other.
Same in Spanish, cornudo.
>A pop song released around spring that gets overplayed during the summer. Swedish By frobar Go to the reddit thread Disagree
Canción del verano.
Stickler seems to work in English.
(I'm still not sure if a stickler is exactly the same term, because it doesn't necessarily involve rules - but "rules lawyer" works just fine for that context. And for the "but it's two words" crowd, so is Paragrafryttare. Just without a space.)
This is the same in German, both in meaning and literal translation („Paragraphenreiter“).
Q: What's the Danish expression for "spin doctor"?
A: Spin doctor
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It means. Ehm.. not cool, specifically in a sort of crass/low brow kind of way. Like I said, hard to explain.
Contestar in Spanish, in a second acception.
I don’t see the point of such a site.