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does anyone know why? I don't have this set up on my network haven't had any issues.

I have only seen this issue when running pfsense. and then to fix it i set up rules for the switch to ahve the type of NAT it wants.

When i use a router from my ISP it always just works.

makes sense but what happens if you have multi switch's? do routers support forwarding to multiple hosts?

I know very little about networking, but i know that my kids can play multiplayer at the smae time together that wont work until i set up thier NAT correctly.

My naivity says that its either NAT handles it or the swithces are choosing random ports (or maybe negotiating through plug and play).

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