I wear N95, but... I have a beard. I'm painfully aware I'm sabotaging my own efforts and do not have a perfect seal.
I wouldn't read too much into fogging.
(That said, I do wish there were better options for people with giant noses like mine.)
Uncharitably: People think it's a magical talisman; wear this mask and be protected. There's no grasp of the mechanism, so "wearing" the mask can be arbitrary.
Charitably: If people grasp how masks work, it's easy to forget, or not think of it, or not check that it's (still) on correctly.
(Bluntly, I think the former option more likely, but I try to think of charitable options)
In any case, we are talking about mitigation of risk, minimization of exposure. If my mask is only filtering 80% of the air at 95%, that still a lot fewer viral particles I'm exposing myself to than otherwise. I don't think that its a matter of whether 1 viral particle gets through, but how many that determines likelihood of an infection or serious illness.
And its effectiveness is backed up by studies of unfitted 95s.
IIRC, KN95s were designed for flatter, asian noses. I think I read somewhere that one of the motivating factors for the design was that it's harder for asians to get a good fit with some types of N95, because they were designed for caucasian noses.
I have a big nose, so KN95s never work for me, unless I retrofit a really long and beefy metal strip for the nose.
I suspect that the fabric’s motion doesn’t mean what you think. You’re just seeing motion from the pressure change. A non permeable plastic film will also move as the pressure changes. This doesn’t mean any air is going through it.
> If my mask is only filtering 80% of the air
If your mask is leaking around the edges, it is extremely unlikely that your mask is filtering anything close to 80% of the air.
My most important point though is that if your goal is to reduce your risk, then wearing an 95 type mask, even an unfitted one, achieves that goal. Its not all or nothing.
Consider how the fit can be pretty and still result in fogging up your glasses. In general but especially on cold days, you avoid fogging your glasses because the air you exhale is moving usually quickly enough that it is past your glasses by the time any of it starts diffusing and moving upward.
An N95 slows it down enough that some of the warm, moist air will make its way up to your glasses. It'll be especially noticeable if you're outdoors int he winter. Plus, the shape of some N95s and KN95s looks like it would cause some of your exhaled air to diffuse out through the mask in a more upward direction that it would if you were maskless.
So two of what I considered indicators of fit are probably wrong. I'll call that a good day. (:
Suppose you buy a mask and it doesn't fit, what do you do, but random ones untill uou find one that works? They have no categorisation, even if you find one, often you cant but it again as shops change their stock randomly.
Also sometimes you buy a FP2 mask and if turns out it's not https://www.pcgamer.com/razer-rows-back-after-zephyr-face-ma...
A lot of the people I see like this seem to have bent the nose piece so tight that it’s actually lifting the top edge off their faces (because the nose cannot fit in the tiny space created). I’m not sure if they think the absurdly tight nose piece is sealing better or if they are intentionally doing this to make it more “breathable”.
The too-tight nose piece is probably because that’s how the masks are packaged.
Ah, I see what you mean. I’m pretty sure that I’m not seeing an illusion most of the time, because I’m not looking at the cloth. I’m looking at the very visible skin beneath the gap. But it makes sense that the outer layer of cloth could be misleading.
> The too-tight nose piece is probably because that’s how the masks are packaged.
You’re probably right. I normally see this on the center-folded masks. This would mean that people are just throwing on the mask without fitting rather than doing an astonishing bad job at attempting to fit, or intentionally fitting to create a space. That’s certainly more understandable.
I would imagine that if there’s a significant gap, most air would actually bypass the mask entirely. And “significant” here is still fairly small. I’m thinking you only need a cross section as large as your nostrils for most air to flow around the mask. And as you make the mask less breathable/more resistive, more air will bypass the mask.
But I don’t know how accurate my assumptions are.
More often, it's probably just a lack of training / reading the instructions on how to press-fit the nose bridge.
Then there's people like me with weird faces that fail fit tests no matter how careful with basically everything except the duck masks.
I've worn an FFP3 throughout, don't see the point in cloth or surgical masks. (With my nose firmly inside...)
Whenever I'm about to be in a place with people, I try to remember to fully shave that morning, so there's not even a day or two's worth of stubble preventing an N95 seal around my nose and mouth.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-021-00337-1
I got rid of my beard before a big (vaxx and mask required) convention in DC last weekend, wore an N95 to the best of my ability, and tested negative (PCR) more than 24 hours after, and I am still feeling fine.
The difference between N95 and cloth masks is so big that we should just treat cloth masks as no masks.
I do find that one kind of KN95 fits great even with my beard (which is short - ~5mm). I trim next to the nose so I have a good fit there, and my side/bottom are short enough that for the most part mask seems to "dig through" the hair and contact skin, kinda like the Studded tires dig through snow to get to ice.
But again, I'm aware that my protection is lower than if I shaved. Personal risks assessments are personal, mine is that I work remotely, am on video calls 6+ hours a day, and shaved I look like a 12 years old :). Meanwhile I very rarely go out, and if I do go out for groceries biweekly or so, and not at all now during omicron, distance + mask + booster provide a reasonable protection.
Granted not the smartest decision but given my risk factors and the fact that I've never not had a beard since I could grow one, so people would likely not even recognize me without one. And two years on I have yet to be infected so I'll count my blessings as a stoke my glorious beard.
It's unbelievable what the pandemic has caused people to think it's acceptable to say.
FWIW, my perspective: In context, I have implicitly stated my goal of self-protection and even indicated my awareness that beard is counter-productive. Saying N95's effectiveness would be improved by dropping the beard is merely factual and restating what I already said. I certainly don't find it an "unbelievable" statement :)
Masks provide positive ROI. Wearing a mask is really not asking a lot.
Even if we want to deny existence of universal right, or societal right, there's still a personal right direction.
First, my goals (which are mandatory for any discussion of correct/incorrect approach, whether on personal or societal/policy level, to be even remotely productive. We can't discuss "what path is right for society" without being explicit about our priorities, goals, assumptions!): For me primary goal is to protect those vulnerable in my life, including my newborn, my elderly parents, my immunocompromised nephew. On path to that, as well as from selfish perspective (I have Asthma/Bronchitis and my lungs are crap), my effective goal is avoid getting COVID for as long as possible, ideally forever; and minimize its impact as much as possible.
Once those personal goals are laid out, the correct approach / right direction is easier to discuss and navigate. Certainly, at the very least, working toward postponing infection has so far been a brilliant decision - even today, getting omicron while vaccinated is better than a year ago getting delta while not vaccinated. My personal extrapolation is that postponing it further is even better, both for myself and for society (most health systems being comprehensively overwhelmed currently; in Toronto, Canada entire hospitals are shutting down and so my mantra is "don't get sick right now", not just Covid).
If you believe you have meaningful contribution to my right direction given my goals, I'm all ears :). I don't believe lack of humility is at issue here but again, let me know if I'm mistaken :).