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He has natural immunity. There are literally only downside risks from taking the shot. Who gets vaccinated for a disease they already had? No one gets measles and THEN gets vaccinated.

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> Who gets vaccinated for a disease they already had?

Chickenpox (a form of herpes) lies dormant in the system for decades causes Shingles. Vaccinations are recommended at 50+ for people who have had the former to prevent the latter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoster_vaccine

This is a non sequitur. This is to prevent reactivation of a dormant infection. With SARS-Cov2 we're talking about reinfection.

He just said he tested positive (again). That means he can still spread the virus to other people; it's entirely possible that his getting the shot would have spared his wife her current symptoms. Elevated risk of infection, even if asymptomatic, is also elevated risk of having to unexpectedly quarantine in the future.

A vaccine would have lowered the odds of that, and it will still lower the odds of it happening again in the future. On the other hand, the risks and downsides of getting vaccinated are negligible.

This is like asking why it's worth driving sober when you already have seatbelts (masks) and airbags (natural immunity).

This is a very weak, modern, hyper-fearful mentality that is not consistent with reality. You're wishing you lived in a utopia, but you don't. You live in the real world. The vaccine cannot prevent infection from the current strains. Everyone is at risk of getting COVID and most likely will get it. You can't hide from this disease, but it's ok because the virus has weakened as it's become more infectious, as coronaviruses tend to do.

>the risks and downsides of getting vaccinated are negligible

You can't know what the long-term effects of this new type of vaccine are. Especially given people have to take it over and over again for to have any effectiveness, so negative effects could possibly accumulate. But it won't prevent catching COVID anyways. Like 5 of my friends and family recently got COVID over Christmas that were all vaccinated. The stats on case numbers bear this out: vaccinated are catching the Omicron strain. The vaccines can't stop this. Natural immunity works many times better than these vaccines and providing protection against infection anyways. This is how it will go, no matter how many boosters you take.

What are you talking about? No one suggested that the vaccine would prevent infection 100% reliably, and I'm not sure why you think we have a better understanding of the long-term effects of covid than mRNA vaccines (which aren't the only type of vaccine available in the first place).

It's pointless. If you're young covid is not a big deal. If you're giving the vaccine and boosters to children, you should be arrested for child abuse and need to get your brain examined. Look at the data...CDC director admits 75% of covid deaths are people with 4 comorbidities[0]. Something like 80% of deaths are over 65 years old.[1]

This is a disease that mostly harms the old and the obese. Just workout, lift weights, get vitamin D and lose body fat. This is what should have been promoted for most people, not worrying about getting 4 rounds of an experimental vaccine that doesn't protect you from actually getting the disease.

>No one suggested that the vaccine would prevent infection 100% reliably

Sure they did, but whatever. It's over man. People need to wake up from this brain rot and move on with their lives. They've destroyed young kids childhood development[2] and they can't let it go. You got young healthy people that have no business worrying about this virus still panicking and avoiding real social lives.

>better understanding of the long-term effects of covid

Because it's a coronavirus that you can't generally avoid getting as it becomes endemic (and weaker). The threat is normal like most other coronaviruses. What is new and novel is the experimental treatment that has to be retaken over and over to actually do anything but will fail anyways. And there already are side effects. Long term, you can't know what this will do but common sense says avoid this, and accept the minimal "risk" you can't avoid but which runs its course quickly and easily (covid).

[0] https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/14805951564830720...

[1] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/what-sh...

[2] https://www.macleans.ca/society/the-cruel-ridiculous-reality...

The data doesn't support your conclusion. Death isn't the only kind of harm. Even if what you're saying were accurate, some of us healthy people do actually interact with older or immunocompromised people, and have enough courtesy to avoid putting their health at undue risk.

If you have a gripe with the recency of mRNA technology, you could just as easily advocate for more traditional alternatives. If you're scared of needles and don't like being pressured to get an injection, you could just say that. As-is you're discrediting yourself entirely.

Sure they did [suggest that the vaccine would prevent infection 100% reliably]

The comment you're replying to (mine) certainly did not. I'm not sure who you're referring to.

They've destroyed young kids childhood development[2] and they can't let it go. You got young healthy people that have no business worrying about this virus still panicking and avoiding real social lives.

Sure. None of that is my preference and it isn't relevant to my comment.

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