RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. We don't shut down society because of RSV.
https://www.medscape.com/answers/971488-177692/what-is-the-p...
https://www.medscape.com/answers/971488-177692/what-is-the-p...
Children don’t exist in isolation. They’re phenomenally good at spreading every infection to the rest of the household and everywhere else they go.
Trying to focus on children's outcomes and ignoring all of the second-order effects is dishonest. Children don’t live alone.
RSV isn't really safe for adults either. But we accept the risk.
Calculate (1-(98.99/100)7.753 billion to get 78 million deaths Calculate (1-(99.998/100)7.753 billion to get 155,060 deaths.
That seems like really good progress.
Everyone else already has it, and have access to vaccines
Closing schools while opening bars is huge failure of leadership.
Delay isn't worth anything unless hospitals are so bad people will die from preventable deaths.
Line 2: Agreed, close bars, no one needs more drug addicts
This really is _the_ important point of contention.
Phrased differently: Does viral spread in one cohort drive the viral spread in another?
And can policy be designed to drive wedges between cohorts to reduce such co-factors?
That being said, as it stands, the data doesn't support your claim. It seems child activity is largely independent of spread among adults.
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/72/12/e1146/6024998
15 June 2021, Meta-analysis
> Children are Infrequently Identified as the Index Case of Household SARS-CoV-2 Clusters
> In analysis of the cluster index cases ... only 3.8% were identified as having a pediatric index case.
> These pediatric cases only caused 4.0% of all secondary cases, compared with the 97.8% of secondary cases that occurred when an adult was identified as the index case in the cluster.
> Clusters where the asymptomatic/symptomatic status of the contact cases was not described were excluded from the analysis. Even with this broader definition, 18.5% children were identified as the index case in the household clusters.
Also, generically, when we have a super spreadable disease, we want to minimize transmission. This is done as a precaution against mutation (the more infections mean more mutations!) and because we don’t have a good idea what the long term effects are.
If you only look at the daycare closures in isolation, you’re not doing the calculus for the system. If there is one thing we’re learning during Covid, it’s how interconnected we all are.
Finally, is the acceptance of RSV a result of a good public health decision? Or have we, as a society, just massively underindexed on ignoring public health?
There is a contradiction in there. Minimizing transmission of super spreadable disease is extremely hard, precisely because it is super spreadable; in this case, just by breathing in the same space. It could be done with very harsh measures - see the Zero Covid strategy in China - but after two years of pandemics, people are tired.
"as a precaution against mutation (the more infections mean more mutations!)"
True, but there are 8 billion people out there and a majority of them aren't living in countries that successfully minimized transmissions of covid. Further mutations will likely come anyway, as the global viral load is probably in trillions of viral particles daily. At that point, it is a question of tradeoff.
The point of the remaining ones is to not send people to hospital and spread it out some until we get antivirals.
Specifically, staffing levels are impacted by the policy of people who have tested positive but are not sick.
>>> "The crisis from the Omicron peak is not generated by serious COVID illness in regions with highly vaxxed populations," Noble wrote in an email to SFGATE. "The crisis we are suffering in the Bay Area is largely driven by disruptive COVID policies that encourage asymptomatic testing and subsequent quarantines.
Via professor of emergency medicine at UCSF https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/COVID-San-Francisco-s...
I have no idea what these asymptomatic folks are wasting hospital resources for
[1] https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/ny-covid-cases-t...
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/COVID-San-Francisco-s...
I wonder if an irrational fear of COVID makes people lose all critical thinking skills.
I do not live in a state or metro with high vaccination rates.
Although, even vaccinated people hospitalized "for covid" at the moment are mostly there for things like dehydration, similar to the flu.
What? My uncle (father's real brother) is a doctor and he is fully vaccinated and boosted. Two other cousins are doctors are vaccinated and boosted. My wife's side of family has several in nursing and administration staff at hospitals, all of them are boosted. Most of the hospitals these folks mentioned above are associated with have fully vaccinated staff.