You Feel Like Shit
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It seems potentially very useful for those with various types of executive dysfunction or mental illnesses that prevent them from either bodily or environmental introspection. If you have experienced these levels of dysfunctions or panics then you'll hopefully understand how a mindful and procedural reflection on your current state and surroundings can be very useful, and can let you escape from attacks, flare-ups or endless cognitive loops. Being prompted by such questions helps. For me, after a brain injury, I found it very useful, when in a panic attack, to step through possible issues and try to alleviate them one by one. Any marginal improvement is worth it if it helps you escape distress.
Also, some people have problems finding internal ways to articulate feelings. Emotional wheels (google it!) are very useful in those who are perhaps neuro-divergent and less able to differentiate internal states without prompts.
Of course a website like this is not exhaustive or entirely encompassing all experiences. But that doesn't necessarily reduce its utility.
Apart from the dieting advice, for me the flowchart was actually pretty useful, specially for someone that ends up paralized when you have too many small chores to do. Then you go through the day smelling like shit, with the house looking like crap and every hour you just feel worse for not having done that yet.
I'm thinking of printing a flowchart in the style of these questions to help me through the mornings. And thanks for the "emotional wheels" tip, it does seem like something that would help me
> The questionable diet advice is likely the only thing they can sympathize (or "antipathize"?) and pick up upon Hacker-news style
I've never seen anything like this before...but it's good to have a 'checklist' -- for something to make you feel better.
It covers a lot of bases, and has useful strategies.
When you're feeling overwhelmed or worked up, sometimes it's not easy to remember what works for you.
This thing helps.
If you're arrogant or dismissive about it...that's OK. Just notice that's a reaction and know not everyone shares it. The wisdom in these suggestions is belied by their simplicity and apparent obviousness I think. I think easily there could be many people who exist in a stressed and worked up state, and incorrectly try to take that out on others, but don't even realize that they could feel differently, nor notice they're not in a 'normal' state. I think it would be very easy for someone in that situation to dismiss this checklist or not see the value of it...but I also think, it could really have profound effects on their well-being, and those around them...if they gave it a try.
If you think this stuff is all obvious: you might be really good at managing yourself. In which case, that's great. But you also might be forgetting that recognition, not recall, is the easier task--as in you may find it hard to recall things like this when you really may need them.
It looks like it would help a lot of people...I hope you enjoy it.
It’s just a little tool to suggest small (short term) things to break out of your rut, not a life philosophy. If you don’t want to eat because you ate 4h, just don‘t, and move to the next question. But maybe you were immersed in coding and forgot food.
Some people with mild depressive episodes don't realize they have the power to break free and make themselves feel better by simply taking action. I imagine this kind of app might just be the thing to get them started in the right direction.
But it goes without saying: if you have any persistent issues, contact a health care professional.
I find the website fairly useful. When I'm feeling like that it's hard to take care of things like window being closed and me not getting enough oxygen. Forgetting to eat is a thing too. Reminding is nice.
It won't cure the chronic depression, but at least today I managed to tidy up the house a little. It's not 0 or 100%.
At least this is how I view it--the keys are: 1) strong reaction, 2) try to find out why I have a strong reaction.
If only there was a mechanism the body had to alert you of it, like some kind of feeling perhaps...
Not everyone has the same experiences as you do.
For instance if you’d sit for 15 min and think about times you needed to check your situation, you’d come up with a checklist of 5 to 10 items, and could pin it in your note taking or document management app of choice.
It would fill the same niche as this site, except it’s completely tailored to your life, your needs, with the proper actions related to each items.
>The content is adapted from the incredibly helpful and popular twine You feel like shit: an Interactive Self Care Guide developed by Jace Harr
Now I'm just going to point out to some other advice by Jace Harr, from https://jaceharr.com/2018/07/15/living-a-charmed-life-witchc....
>Use Tarot for insights on current and past situations rather than for gossip about the future.
>Use your Book of Shadows or journal to record your progress.
Then we have an entire article titled "Why We Need Self-Diagnosis": https://jaceharr.com/2016/07/31/why-we-need-self-diagnosis/
But above all, the worst crime, the absolute peak of failure: The site doesn't work on Firefox. Goddamnit.
I assumed Firefox would be the problem since opening it with Chrome worked, even after disabling plugins that I considered might have been a problem. Another, clean installation of Firefox DID work though, so I got to tinkering a bit and it turns out that, somehow, the one that is a problem is dark reader, which returns a
>Some files on the server may be missing or incorrect. Clear browser cache and try again. If the problem persists please contact website author.
Error. Weird.
Sure, a good diet should make a meal last 6 hours. You should adopt good habits. But if you're acting like a smug jerk right now because you're blood sugar is low, eat something. I see a lot of commenters here who need to have a quick snack and reevaluate their dietary habits.
I guess I could just say I did and see what the other questions have to offer. I wonder what another decision path would look like where you can select "I need this but can't do it right now".
1. I have things to do.
2. Naps throw off my sleep cycle
3. 6 hours isn't the end of the world.
The self-care advice on this website is bullshit.
Psychorigid and neurotic attitudes towards sleep do not promote good sleep. You can not "catch up" on lost sleep by napping. Instead, you risk throwing off your sleep for that night and perpetuating a pattern of sleeplessness. Afternoon naps are bad sleep hygiene. They are something you unlearn in treatment for insomnia and many other sleep disorders.
And even if you can, "Naps throw off the sleep cycle", not everyone finds them worthwhile.
I'm not sure if that's a good advice.
AFAIK, in the USA this seems to be common practice but in Germany people are more reluctant to take painkillers, for good reasons: You will be more careful when using the respective body part.
/s
Wikipedia: "Aspirin, also known as acetylsalicylic acid, is a medication used to reduce pain, fever, or inflammation"
Not sure what the other poster means by 'extremely hard to get'. Ask for it at the counter at any pharmacy and there you go. Maybe they're referring to it not being available at the counter in supermarkets? (Whereas paracetamol is.)
I'm in the unfortunate situation that Acetylsalicylsalicylic acid (wow, that's a mouthful!) is the only thing that really work for my headaches... so I might be counter-biased wrt. your experience.
It's just that I perhaps seek it out by default and it's not difficult to obtain from that perspective. (Though you always have to listen to the lecture...)
https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/indicators/indicator-detai...
Paracetamol is a much safer option with almost no side effects, as long as you stick to the daily limits.
Plugging in this video (in french) from a doctor about various painkillers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCg6if1KZvQ
It might or might not be safe, but the parent claim was that nobody they know uses it as a painkiller, and that thus it's a "strange choice" if someone does, when it's (a) very common worldwide, (b) described as such in every medical website or source.
If you're still a kid ASA is not recommended as an anti-fever medication because of the risk of Reye's syndrome. Perhaps that's why no one you know uses it. Perhaps it's because the patent on it expired a century ago (a result of war reparations, no less) and drug companies find it more lucrative to push their alternatives.
I've first seen people randomly using aspirin on US television shows, so perhaps it's just less common elsewhere.
"Aspirin is an everyday painkiller for aches and pains such as headache, toothache and period pain. It can also be used to treat colds and flu-like symptoms, and to bring down a high temperature." (NHS)
"Aspirin works by blocking the production of prostaglandins, the on-off switch in cells that regulate pain and inflammation, among other things. That’s why aspirin stops mild inflammation and pain." (Washington University)
Yes.
>It literally does nothing. It is placebo at best.
Says who? Not science.
Significant benefit of aspirin over placebo was shown for aspirin 600/650 mg, 1000 mg and 1200 mg, with numbers-needed-to-treat for at least 50% pain relief of 4.4 (4.0-4.9), 4.0 (3.2-5.4) and 2.4 (1.9-3.2) respectively. (...) Reviewer's conclusions: Aspirin is an effective analgesic for acute pain of moderate to severe intensity with a clear dose-response. Drowsiness and gastric irritation were seen as significant adverse effects even though the studies were single-dose. The pain relief achieved with aspirin was very similar milligram for milligram to that seen with paracetamol.
Other study:
Results: The results of the dental pain study for aspirin and acetaminophen with codeine suggest statistically significant efficacy for all measures compared with placebo at all time points. Aspirin provided statistically significant efficacy compared with acetaminophen with codeine for SPID(0-4) (P = 0.028). In the tension-type headache study, aspirin and acetaminophen with codeine provided statistically significant efficacy compared with placebo for SPID(0-4) and SPID(0-6) (P < 0.001) and for total pain relief (P < 0.001). (...) Conclusions: These 2 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies demonstrate that treatment with aspirin (1000 mg) provides statistically significant analgesic efficacy compared with placebo use and comparable efficacy with acetaminophen (300 mg) with codeine (30 mg) therapy after impacted third molar extraction and in tension- type headache.
And so on. There are lots of studies for its use as a painkiller.
And the above don't even touch arthritis and pain from inflammation, where it excels...
At high dose, taken on demand Aspirin is a decent pain killer. In my experience it works against mild headaches and flu-like symptoms.
I just googled for "aspirin pain effectiveness" and the first hit was this:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10796855/
which doesn't match what you are saying.
When I object and refuse, they attempt to pressure me into it.
I wish I could teach them that not everything needs to be medicated, and letting your body do its job, even if there's some discomfort or pain involved, is fine.
I prefer not to mess with my body chemistry unless it's a serious situation.
Most of differences of this kind is due to habbit than some unique psysiology.
With some time spent, one could easily learn to skip breakfast and be fine (or start eating it and be fine).
That's because you're addicted and you're experiencing withdrawals symptoms. Just like when I tried to stop coffee, I felt like shit for days/weeks before my body went back to its baseline.
People are used to eat three meals a day and your hormone cycles adjusted to that schedule, now if you skip a meal your body feels like it's starving even though you probably have weeks if not months of stored energy.
> Everyone's different.
Not really, different conditioning but mostly similar response to food intake.
From the studies I looked at this is due to how your body handles hunger, hunger seems to mostly be caused by an hormone called ghrelin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghrelin)
Ghrelin seems to be secreted by your body, not only when it _needs_ food but also when it anticipates food (that's why you start craving food after seeing a tasty food video/ad), now for the funny part, it also is influenced by meal timing, meaning that if you eat every day at regular interval your level of ghrelin will go up and peak slightly before the actual meal. And this is why most people "trained" to eat three times a day every single day of their life can't skip one meal without feeling bad, even if they have 0 physical activity they'll still crave food. As the wiki points out it's also part of the dopamine reward system
https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/147/1/23/2499980
> Consistent with previous data from other species including humans, there is a learned, preprandial increase of plasma ghrelin when individuals have been trained to anticipate their food at a fixed time.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5033008/
> The constant abundance of palatable foods together to the excessive stress levels that we suffer in modern societies places the ghrelin/GHSR‐1A system in a new role in which it likely cause adverse consequences, including overeating beyond metabolic need and body weight gain. Therefore, the action of ghrelin on the mesolimbic system may have been a ‘great spice’ from an evolutionary perspective, although it no longer represents an advantage for modern human beings
https://medium.com/personal-growth/does-fasting-cause-or-cur...
Based on your mention of sugary stuff, just wanted to mention that I hardly ever consume (processed) sugar, least of all at breakfast.
Their advice is: "You feel like shit? Eat some food." I have an issue with that, and I'm surprised you do not.
I was merely taking exception to the _opposite_ point of view that eating less, to the point of skipping one or more meals a day, was universally good for everyone, without exception.
Most of the time I think I'm hungry, I'm actually thirsty. Take now for example, I've just eaten lunch and a coffee, but I'm feeling like I could really do with an apple (I had one for breakfast). I suspect that's because I'm dehydrated rather than hungry.
Instead it's the other way round (have you eaten? If yes, drink water)
Out of the box, it will yell at you and styling will be broken, but it will be functional. The entire mirror is also smaller than most web pages nowadays: 500k and 100 files total.
We got a new dog a few days ago. I immediately -- almost instantly -- noticed that tiktok started showing me new-dog videos. Things like "How to kennel train your dog" and so on.
I was very confused, and reasoned that the most likely explanation was that I had subconsciously been liking dog videos in our run-up to getting a puppy. But then it occurred to me that it's quite realistic to think an ML model got me: I'm logged into tiktok via Google as myself; there's certainly data sharing agreements in place; my purchasing habits are no doubt tracked by multiple vectors; and I know from experience that ML can infer some surprising things from sparse data.
My point is, in an era when algorithms know the instant you get a new puppy, or the month you get pregnant, or the week you get fired, or have an extremely accurate picture of just how much disposable income you have...
... are you really going to care about sharing whether you feel like shit? That's the hill we pick? :)
I think the answer is probably more mundane: someone an edge away from you on their social graph looked at dog videos, and they correlated it based on that.
Horoscopes and fortune cookies usually make a outsized effort to come with as bland advice as possible. I’d imagine the owner of the site getting buckets of death threat level of feedback if this gets any traction.
I didn't think all the questions (or the options to choose from) were great but the general idea of checking whether you're okay physically, and then checking whether you're okay mentally, is very valid.
> why do people think it’s a good idea to throw random life advices at strangers that might be on the other side of the earth and live a life they can’t even imagine ?
People are sharing what they've learned. Advice doesn't need to work for everyone to be good advice. And it doesn't need to be perfect advice to teach you something useful.
> Advice doesn't need to work for everyone to be good advice.
This is a valid approach for personal advice, or at least advice from someone that identifies as an individual speaking for themselves. It’s a different matter when it is broadcast indiscriminately and sets itself as a self-help resource.
Perhaps there's another way of presenting the content, without (again, my view) patronising a potentially depressed person.
> Yes, I took a shit in the last 24 hours -> Continue to next question
> No I didn't take a shit -> Go take some laxatives, smoke a cigarette, or go sit on the toilet and push one out (don't give yourself a Hernia though!)
> Yes but I have diarrhea -> Continue to next question
[1] https://philome.la/jace_harr/you-feel-like-shit-an-interacti...
The content is adapted from the incredibly helpful and popular twine You feel like shit: an Interactive Self Care Guide developed by Jace Harr, with permission.
Has the same content as far as I can see. I wonder how that other author was OK with that
There are plenty of sugar-addicted lean people who can't bear the thought of four hours without food.
I know this is HN so half the comments will be about magnifying this one sentence that they think is wrong, but FWIW this is the first self-help thing that's actually put a smile on my face. Thanks! Bookmarking.
1 - when I last exercised? 2 - how many hours did I work today?
Now that made me feel like shit! Because it means that either a) I'm a whiner who has no justifiable reason to complain about feeling bad or b) I'm too deluded to admit that I have a mental illness.
One of those could be true, of course, but at least in my case, that line is working against the stated purpose of this website.
I volunteer on 7cups and recommend everyone who can spare the time to do the same. It’s basically chatting with strangers in distress, although the system keeps reminding you to focus on “active listening”.
> Well why don't you just skype a friend?
Possible answers. `I just skyped a friend and I feel better. Continue. `
Getting a very strong "Just say no to drugs" vibe from this.
Is this a joke website?
Pro life hint: drinking soda and similar is why you feel like shit.
Every day I lose hope that this society will get better.
Your best friends will hurt you small now to prevent you from being an idiot in the future and causing tenfold damage be it socially or otherwise. I consider friends "too positive" to have given me such warnings as flawed.
No one feels like shit just because they drink soda from time to time, and obviously soda is better than not drinking anything.
Yeah 100% water is best, it's what I do as well, but come on have some empathy.
NOW.. I feel like shit
Apparently this is a reason to feel like shit, according to this site. If you feel crap after only 4 hours since your last meal, quit eating so much sugar and eat decent food that keeps you filled and energised for a while. In fact, I reach my peak productivity at least 4 hours after a meal, when my body isn't spending much energy digesting food. Have you ever experienced the mental clarity of 12 or 24 hours of fasting?
The idea that we need to eat many small meals is such a Western, privileged world wife's tale that keeps being repeated. We're designed to function and hunt after some prey after days of starvation. We're not designed for the modern blood sugar seesaw. Not eating for 4 hours isn't gonna kill you, and if it is, stop eating Mars bars for lunch, and ingest some proper food.
It might be regional, but I think "soft drink" or ""fizzy drink" are far more common. I can't recall the last time I heard "pop" used in this sense.
An entirely unscientific search on some sites (Deliveroo, Ocado etc.) shows "pop" either not returning any drinks (Deliveroo near me) or returning pretty much the same as "soda", with Ocado returning the "fizzy drinks" category for both searches.
A 1996 linguistics study inspired a map [...] showing “soda” prevalent on the coasts, while “pop” held sway in the Northwest and Midwest, and the generic “coke” took the South. There must be some electoral significance to this.
https://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/the-soda-vs-pop-m...
It absolutely does not include lemonade! I never in a million years would think of lemonade as remotely related to "soda". Our lemonades are not carbonated, and are just lemon juice, water, and sometimes sugar.
The question is so surprising to me. Where are you from? To you, what does "soda" mean? What does "lemonade" mean?
I love your sense of wonderment at different cultures, wait until you hear about what "chips", "pants", and "fanny" mean in the UK!
And now checking what real lemonade looks like -- I think we'd call that lemon soda but it wouldn't definitely belong in the "limonadi" category. So a bit confusing inversion of terms during some cultural adoption!
Edit: I see the usage is closer to UK naming convention, so maybe that's the history.
Yeah, here in the US, I don't think you can call a carbonated beverage "lemonade", even if it has lemons in it. That would be "lemon soda", I suppose, though I don't think I've ever seen that. Lemonade is a mixture of still water and lemons, sometimes sweetened, with ice, that you drink out on the porch during summer in the afternoon.
Your question hit me like: "does 'wine' always mean 'beer', in Finland, or only sake (rice wine)?" I knew there must be a culturally different usage of language somewhere but I had no idea where! Turns out it was lemonade that was different. TIL that other places have carbonated lemon drinks.
On a more serious note, your comment would be a lot better if it had a constructive tone (like "good concept, but for many people going 4 hours without food will not make them feel bad").
That said, when my wife gets cranky, it's usually because it's been too long since she are something. Either dinner is too late or she skipped lunch. My oldest son might have the same issue; he prefers to skip breakfast and sometimes even lunch, and then becomes unbearable. So eat something healthy at set times, not unhealthy crap at every hour of the day.
If with the little info you get your first thought was to blame sugar, it feels to me you’re on a journey against some giants/windmills, because really life is more complicated than that.
Personally I actually can use a reminder to eat because I have little appetite and won’t realize I haven’t eaten anything until the headache kicks in, which is a potential migraine trigger for me as well. To be clear I don’t want/need to eat something every four hours but that doesn’t make the question less valid for the purposes of reminding me to consider when I last ate.
If it would have been worded differently, to suggest that eating something might be a good idea - then I probably would have clicked further. But it has this absolute tone, that puts me off.
It's an incredibly unhealthy thing to teach and that is just the first question.
So yeah...
Yes! Next question.
I could use a snack...
No, I need a meal.
I also think that the use of the shit emoticons should've been enough hint that this is primarily a joke website
If it is asking him actual questions and gets the first question wrong in terms of him I kind of see his point that is doesn't seem to apply to him very well?
Imagine a questionnaire that starts with
Do you currently program in:
Cobol, fortran pascal or basic?
Maybe it wouldn't be aimed at you...
But there is no option for "I did and I'm still tired" :/
Maybe you dont eat correct food? If eating tires you for 4 hours after meal, there is something wrong.
I don’t think this is a very healthy website.
> Here are some ideas for easy foods > you can eat right now:
-Pasta with butter, sauce, cheese, vegetables, and/or meat -Ramen noodles -Sandwiches -Rice -Grilled cheese (This can have meat on it, if you want!) -A smoothie or milkshake -Baked or fried potatoes -Eggs, pancakes, and/or bacon -Macaroni and cheese -Canned soup -Salad. -Boxed mashed potatoes
Did you use your squat rack in the last 24 hours?
No: Go do some lifting.
(That's a sure fire way to lift my spirits.)
On top of that my thinking is so much clearer too; it doesn't even have to be a big session for this to take effect, so I often sneak a quick one in if I have two meetings with only a small gap.
For example I get nowhere the same effect from 10 minutes of walking as I do 10 minutes of squats - perhaps lights for reps superset with shoulder presses, very short breaks.
I can feel like shit four hours after eating a proper meal, esp. if I'm stressed and working non stop.
Another reason I can feel like shit 4 hours after eating is vitamin B deficiency. I burn through that stuff like a broken engine digests its own oil, and it creates a bunch of problems with energy, clarity, and body weight regulation.
> Have you ever experienced the mental clarity of 12 or 24 hours of fasting?
Yes, esp. if I'm not redlining my brain to work on full capacity for 8 hours straight, with no breaks.
> We're designed to function and hunt after some prey after days of starvation.
Yes, similarly we're not designed to sit in front of a computer and sweat your brains off designing software and stuff, and making our brains burn much more energy than they're designed and accustomed to do so, we need to return to that lifestyle immediately.
> Not eating for 4 hours isn't gonna kill you, and if it is, stop eating Mars bars for lunch, and ingest some proper food.
I'm not eating Mars bars or similar stuff for a year now, and I can still go through a sizeable meal under 4 hours when I'm working under load. See above.
TL;DR: Brain can consume a lot of energy. Much more than a normally active homo sapiens' muscle system, and not all humans are created equal. Genetics is a huge number of d20 rolls.
I'm a bit absent minded and some days I start to feel tired and a bit anxious around ~3-4pm. I feel awful, and I'm wracking my brain for what I'd forgotten to do that day. Oh wait, it was breakfast and lunch...
For me, the biggest benefit is just breaking up the habits... especially the habit of panicking when peckish.
That said, this question set isn't wrong. It's about basics of what might be making you feel shit. Hungry, thirsty, pained, tired, etc.
Resilience in the face of these is great, but it ignorance of these is not.
Edit: not everyone experiencing their first manic breakdown notice it; pdocs tell me people usually go to them after the crash. I encourage everyone experiencing unusual feelings or omnipotence and euphoria (or, on the contrary, a restless kind of angry anxiety) that can’t be explained by drugs to take the Young Mania Ratings Scale, there are several copies online.
To my previous comment: my experience/my body/ my neurotendencies/ etc.
I have never experienced a difference between eating more or less frequently (apart from hunger), only between quality of food (i.e., after a few days of not eating well, I feel less sharp).
> We're designed to function and hunt after some prey after days of starvation.
Natural arguments are not valid arguments. We're also "designed" to walk barefoot and yet I bet you wear shoes when you go out. It isn't like someone designed humans to work for a certain use case: we reached some adaptations to the environment, but it doesn't mean that original environment is the optimal one.
Edit: specified "eating more frequently"
When half of western country inhabitants are overweight, obese and have the physical strength/endurance of a 12 years old I think this argument holds a lot more than you think
If you think something is good/bad for you, the argument must be about the thing itself, not the fact that primitive humans did it or did not do it.
You mean, exercising ? We very much have body designed for that. Not exercising and poor diet choices are the leading cause of death in the west...
I started eating to cover up my depression. Worst mistake of my life.
Well, that's what I meant. I haven't found a difference between eating more or less frequently, other than hunger, of course.
In a lot of cases I think natural arguments are correct. Our environment has changed far more than we have in recent times.
> In a lot of cases I think natural arguments are correct. Our environment has changed far more than we have in recent times.
Precisely because we can adapt to that environment by means other than evolution. If you think something is bad/good, you need a real argument for it, not just "we did it this way before".
It’s just natural to die from stepping on something nasty. Too bad for her but it makes the population stronger right?
People didn't invent shoes because it was aesthetic, it was a necessity when adapting for certain terrains.
I am very curious. I have always lived in the West and I have never heard that once. I have always been told to eat 3 meals a day : Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner.
I stretch and walk every day. Maybe "peak productivity" isn't at a desk for hours where your primary energy expenditure is digestion, for most people
Western!? If anything, having only three meals a day is very western.
Over Christmas my family brought me quite a lot of chocolate and as it was Christmas I figured it wouldn't be a bad idea to take the week off my diet and allow myself to enjoy some sweets and carbs over the holidays. However after consuming a few bars of chocolate on Christmas day I felt terrible... I'm not sure exactly what was going on, but I felt similar to how I feel after fasting for 5 days. Weak, light headed, a little nauseous, etc... I read online somewhere that when you're very insulin sensitive spiking your insulin levels with sweets and chocolate can cause your body to quickly pull out excess sugar from the blood and this can then cause a temporary dip in blood sugar levels. Not 100% sure if this is correct, but apparently there are other people who practise low-carb diets who experience a similar thing to me. That experience really highlighted to me how bad sugar probably is for us, it's just that most of us don't realise it because our bodies have adjusted to being bombarded with sugary, high-carb foods for so long.
It's also crazy how many people think I'm doing some radical diet too... I get it's extreme compared with Western norms, but it seems kinda obvious for most of our evolution we wouldn't have been eating and snaking on sugary, high-carb foods throughout the day... The fact it's considered extreme for me to eat a large single meal consisting of vegetable, fruit and meat once a day probably goes to show how bad diets considered "healthy" by Western standards is. My parents for example genuinely just think eating a varied diet is all you need to be healthy, and sure, that might help mitigate nutritional deficiencies, but it really doesn't matter what you're eating, over-eating simply isn't good for your health. They refuse to accept this though saying a normal person needs at least 3 meals a day to function well, but again I think this just goes back to how broken our diets are and how dependant most people are on carbs to function optimally.
Unfortunately I haven't although I fasted many times for more than 16 hours and only once 24 hours. I'm always lethargic, irritable and I cannot do anything other than thinking of food. I fasted 16 hours with most hours during the day, during the night, same result.
When it comes to health, things are rarely that simple. Even medical professionals have knowledge gaps, let alone someone who isn't one. I'd be careful to make assumptions.
Heck, many people assume the other person's a snowflake, when in fact their patience and pain tolerance may be miles above yours.
It's the same as reductionists advice on complex health issues where you advice someone to try X based on your 5-mins reading material, when surely someone suffering for years have tried all of that in thousands of hours of searching for the magic fix.
Second, humans have clearly evolved to be omnivorous. What do omnivores generally do in favorable environments? Hint, "hunt after days of starvation" is a obligate carnivore pattern -- and not one that all obligate carnivores share.
And then, I’m on a whole food plant based diet. I eat lentil curry and brown rice, salads, nuts, and two liters of veggie and fruit smoothie a day. I have maybe a tiny amount of sweets in the evening. And I eat a little bit constantly throughout the day.
I think you’ve read way in to that question in the wrong way.
I think in the fullness of time we will see literature about how misreading data from a study on diet lead to the worst public policy decision on nutrition in history.
Nobody ever claimed that. What's your point?
I very rarely eat before noon, and I have been like this my whole life. Also, I am a small eater in general - so I very often, when eating out at a restaurant ask for a to-go container at the same time as I order my food. THen I immediately put half or more in the container before I eat it.
And I am very active, for example, I rode nearly 1,000 miles on my 29" mtn. bike in the month of August alone (26 miles a day for almost the entire month)
and I eat very healthy, and well (My GF works at the french laundry and we are big foodies...)
BUT - we both do crave sugar a lot...
I want to do a water fast but I haven't gotten around to it yet.
The real culprit is carbs and for my GF, gluten - she has ciliac and gluten is extremely hard to avoid in the 'modern' food world.
This site is laughable. At least for anyone knowing a little bit about nutrition.
I thought exactly the way do you until I get together with mine. I got her oh my exact diet and ... she still need to eat every four hours or she would feel like shit
She has never had one. Remembering to eat is a conscious activity. If she's occupied or stressed then she doesn't remember to eat.