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> Aah-zhur

So do you pronounce the "Aah" like the "o" in "otter", or like the "a" in "apple"?

Isn't it fun trying to describe pronunciation with contrived spelling? :-)

Here in London, UK it's mostly pronounced Ah-zuuure. With the 'zuure' part being almost twice as long as how americans say it.

I think I've ipa'd this right: http://ipa-reader.xyz/?text=%2F%C3%A6%CA%92%C9%9C%C9%9Cr%2F

(It sounds correct anyway)

Indeed. Much easier to use IPA here, but the likelihood people can write/read it is pretty low. I'm out of practice, but should be /æʒər/. Could also copy-paste that into here: http://ipa-reader.xyz/

My main hobby is choral singing. Learning IPA is insanely helpful; at a high level the pronunciation of words really really matters and making sure the choir place the vowels (and turn the dipthongs) in the same way is a big deal (think of Anthea Turner singing 'fire' in a pop song compared to a baroque English 'fire').

I've noticed consistently that more British people are familiar with IPA, even passingly or badly, than Americans. I've never quite known why -- unless you do a language degree here you're never taught it formally, but it's usually in the dictionaries (e.g. the Oxford English dictionary) by every word, often with multiple forms for different geographic regions. I've never actually seen a real physical en-us dictionary -- does Marriam Webster (sic) do the same?

It's my impression that there's a larger variety of accents in the UK, maybe that's why British people are more familiar with IPA? We do have IPA in our dictionaries, though.

> you're never taught it formally, but it's usually in the dictionaries

Amusingly, I don't ever remember a proper IPA pronuncation table in almost anything I used to learn English.

> does Marriam Webster (sic) do the same?

Looks like it [0]

[0] https://shop.merriam-webster.com/collections/dictionaries/pr...

Emphasis on the first syllable. Short A as in apple. [0]

[0] https://youtu.be/AmP11EgEM4g

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