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https://twitter.com/OrangeCoSheriff/status/14803402909176094...

> Earlier today, deputies were called to the Ritz-Carlton Orlando, Grande Lakes for a call about an unresponsive man in a hotel room. The man was identified as Robert Saget & pronounced deceased on scene. Detectives found no signs of foul play or drug use in this case.

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Thanks, that's great to read. In case my comment was taken the wrong way, I didn't mean to imply he OD'd or anything, I meant to imply that he didn't seem to be one that would OD, and 65 is relatively young to go unexpectedly. Shocked me!

Well, it’s not unfair to suspect OD. That’s almost always what “unresponsive in a hotel room” means.

We all know this, now the question to me is are the police under any obligation to tell the truth about these things? If there was a pile of fentanyl laced fentanyl under him, they don’t have to say one way or another right?

I remember when Trevor Moore died (rip) the cause was so hush it was weirdly suspicious for lack of detail. If iirc it was to the effect of “found dead in his lawn”, the family controlled the messaging and the police said nothing at all.

Keep your speculation to yourself, it serves no purpose here.

A huge part of contributing to and reading HN is for speculation lol

And basically every reply at the level of the GP was speculation. The post was a bit crass but certainly parallel to the others speculating about a cause of death.

Depends how you're speculative. From the guidelines:

"Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

That’s false. Speculation helps to communicate to those who don’t yet know, from life experience, that many “found unresponsive” deaths are actually OD/suicide/suicide-by-bender.

"unresponsive in a hotel room" is a state. It has zero connection to cause.

Celebrity unresponsive in a hotel room probably winds up being drug induced more often than not.

I'm not saying this is the case here, just pointing out I understand where the parent is coming from.

It is complicated with Bob Saget, because his reputation was so tied up with irreverence.

Unfortunately comedians have a pretty long history of drug and alcohol abuse

It's not absurd for your mind to wonder in that direction initially

I make a point of assuming any deaths I don't know the cause of were strokes. It can happen at any age, and it keeps me from speculating about something more lurid.

I usually assume heart attack, that's kind of the other biggie.

Biggie-er.

Stroke/heart attack is still one of the top 3 killers in the US, and most people look for alternative explanations first, which makes little sense to me.

I suspect it was a heart attack, or similar kind of fatal situation.

Yes, it could just as well be a heart attack or stroke, or some sort of organ distress.

Thanks, that's great to read.

Why an overdose should make his passing "not great" is unclear.

Just personal opinion, no offense meant.

I tend to think, perhaps unfairly, of most drug abuse as someone suffering in some way. So I guess I'm glad in that based on that and his lasts posts, he seemed genuinely happy.

Because anything other than a natural death usually isn't great. I sincerely hope this clears it up for you.

People usually take solace in a situation like this that there was no way to prevent it. If he had been doing a lot of drugs, the questions of "could/should someone have stoped him" would complicate people's emotions.

I don't think it was intended in a judgement way insomuch as a "well it could have been prevented w/ Narcan or better drugs if it WAS an overdose"

I believe he was known for doing a lot of coke in the 80s and 90s so perhaps he just ran his body hard in his youth and 65 is where his body ended up.

But did he suck dick for coke? That's an addiction.

To those downvoting the above, it's a reference to a famous Bob Saget line.

Hahahaha.

Well if your only experience with the movie was on Comedy Central you might remember it as "Did you ever suck _toe_ for weed?". Comedy Central with the hilariously bad filler lines.

Another classic being the line from Kill Bill: "My names Buck, and I like to [cue robotic, out of cadence word]_party_"

I think the best is "This is what happens when you _find_ a stranger in the _alps_" from The Big Lebowski.

The reference, for those understandably not inclined to google/ddg/brave it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwG3HWubpZI

RIP, Bob

I seen him!

Congratulations on the first legit, hilarious mainstream reference on HN. I only hope my life’s work will give me an equally compelling epitaph. :)

Right, coke's not that great of a drug. That dick sucking is a hell of an addiction, man.

I don't know what happened in this particular case, but cocaine use can cause hidden cardiac damage. Heart attacks in relatively young people often have prior cocaine use as a contributing factor.

When I read of someone dying prematurely, I actually find it reassuring if the person OD'd -- it's an identifiable cause that I can avoid in my life. Seeing people drop dead for no apparent reason causes me more anxiety!

I can see the flip side though, that it having been preventable makes it more tragic.

I feel better about someone going peacefully in their sleep than in terrible pain

you don't need to go to shitter... it's right there in the article (that you and OP read... right?? lol...)

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