Yes, something like this actually deserves to be removed, especially when it reaches critical mass. Because it does more harm than good to the extent that yeah american youth are just going to get dominated on a global field if most of our zoomer ADHD youth equate having a boss to slavery.
And it doesn't matter at all how few people may or may not participate in this particular subreddit. This is the third time I've seen a post about the subreddit in mainstream news. It's popular and the sentiments are only going to grow with more time and more encouragement, to our detriment.
I have no idea about the other subreddit you mentioned, but it does sound superficially like a spot racists would meet up. But it's been banned so I'm just judging it by its title.
The sidebar literally advocates for abolition of work.
They won't ban antiwork because it encourages giving up, consooming, laziness, weakness. Exactly the kind of NPC audience reddit milks money off of. Ad revenue, reddit gold, buying emojis, constant scrooolllling, etc.
You are just naive, there will always be authoritarianism, forever. You're just on the receiving end or the administrating end.
There is an argument that a subreddit could be out of line with the site, and not hosted. Granted it would be a bit of a stretch given the kind of content on reddit. I don't think r/antiwork crosses any line, but it's really up to reddit
The problematic behaviour is advocating for a ban on the discussing these ideas.
… so all in a days work for reddit?
- Would it be that most people could choose not to work? (I.e under some kind of UBI program?) I’d like to not have to work ;)
- Would it be that the benefits and pay for many jobs would be vastly improved? That also sounds pretty nice.
- Maybe it’d be that companies have to compete harder to be actually nice places to work. Also a good thing.
What exactly would be to our detriment? Something about lack of work ethic? But why does that really matter? Is it so that we can maintain technical prowess? But why is that important?
What if we were happier and less stressed instead? We’re really failing hard in America to consider our economic systems from the perspective of human flourishing and quality of life.
So, I find your comment very strange. What are you so scared of with the movement for better working conditions such that you want it to be outright banned from the internet?
People wanting to "abolish work" may rather leech on society, it is a consequence of social media brainwashing: gambling, crypto, FIRE, 4hww, etc. These concepts have wide scale, harmful implications for the future of humanity
* What you feel /r/antiwork stands for based upon your interpretation of the title?
* What a couple of anonymous posters on the forum wrote?
* What the essays in the FAQ actually argue for?
Leech on society... I think you've got this backwards. The "leech on society" is all rent-seekers.
Maybe we should ban landlords, seems they're pretty leechy by just holding onto a residence so they can make people who can't really afford it, pay them just for the privilege of having a bed to sleep in....
Should a doctor or nurse be paid as a restaurant or retail worker? Who is the "essential" worker? Look at the market, tech is becoming more essential, not services.
If you don't upgrade your skills and stay stagnant, you will be decimated. If you are young, you can still learn and adapt, change careers and industries.
You cannot afford to think like a boomer anymore: adapt or die. This is the harsh reality.
The market is far too irrational and complex to assign essentiality based on salaries or valuations.
You seem to be bringing up the hoary "learn to code" lesson, but plenty of people trying to make money in crypto or achieve FIRE are former coders themselves. In their view, they upgraded their skills.
It means you are exploiting those who grow the food you eat and produce the services you consume for nothing material in return.
From the remaining workers point of view, since there is nothing material available, it would be better not to produce the surplus consumed by those choosing not to work and have Friday off instead.
Stuff doesn't make itself. Most of us work in solidarity with the farmers and the service workers that make our comfortable lives possible.
Whatever r/antiwork is, it's none of these three things.
For contrast: nihilism would be proudly not wearing a mask in public spaces during a pandemic, because reasons, and then bragging about it.
> something like this actually deserves to be removed
Absolutely. Because complaining about wage theft is worse than actual wage theft.
Imagine a world that censored complaining. That'd be a world without Outlaw Country. That's not a world want to live in.
Johnny Paycheck - Take This Job and Shove It https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj2iGAifSNI
We are free to imagine and strive for a different world than the one we find ourselves in, and I would argue those trying to stifle that are the ones who should be banned from forums.
I don't think it's a minority though.
>What about this https://hbr.org/2021/09/who-is-driving-the-great-resignation ?
>1. Resignation rates are highest among mid-career employees.
>2. Resignations are highest in the tech and health care industries.
Your source doesn't really contradict the parent comment. The top posts in the subreddit don't match the demographics in the hbr article. Looking at the top 30 posts this month and filtering for anecdotes, I see:
1. some sort of office worker that works weekends
8. something about a skilled tradesman
12. salesman at a dealership
13. a worker at some sort blue collar job (mentions "work boots" and "work pants")
19. someone working at starbucks
20. someone who works as a "Underwriter"
21. someone who has an "engineering degree" but was offered a $40k/yr job
23. someone who is being asked to wear uniforms
26. welder
29. police academy
I'm not sure about you, but from the sampling of these posts, the anecdotes seem to be mostly people working blue collar/retail/service jobs. Programmers and doctors are not present at all.