The James Webb Space Telescope – making 300 points of failure reliable
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> The concepts used to create the JWST are built on the same concepts used on the first satellites and space probes in the 1950s.
AKA, the field of Systems Engineering [0]. Further reading if you really want to take a deep dive [1].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_engineering
[1] https://www.amazon.com/Mission-Analysis-Design-Technology-Li...
There would also be less of it, which would be another boon.
That's one of the reasons I write my blog - I think there are plenty of inspirational & aspirational lessons software developers (especially, but no only, in the DevOps and SRE domains) can learn from the space exploration.
If you're interested, my first article can be found at : https://medium.com/ibm-garage/out-of-this-world-lessons-from...
It's no wonder the JWST is 10x+ over budget.
"The only solution left [...] was making sure that the JWST would be as reliable as possible.
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I plan for the next few articles to be split between further details of the James Webb Space Telescope"
I'm really looking forward to some details and followed you on twitter (because I have no Idea how I would do that on medium without ail spam... I miss RSS...)
The only source for details I found so far was an old videolog that at least showed some close-ups of things in action too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DQe-OzrcJM&list=PLcy1hEnsej...
2) It didn’t cost 9,000,000 dollars to build. That’s off by 1000x.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/44093/details-on-t...
The discussion includes links to several relevant GAO reports. I agree that it would be interesting to see a single detailed list. That is not in these reports.
https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-20-224.pdf
CPU it uses is RAD750, pretty standard radiation-hardened CPU for spacecrafts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAD750
More powerful and modern CPU would not enable any more science to be gathered and only increase chance of failure. Maybe some power saving could be achieved, but that CPU requires only 5W from 2000W produced by solar panel anyway.
That was exactly my question. Did they use the 8 years from 2013 to 2021 to improve the instruments? Or did they remain at 2013 state of the art level?
NIRCam has quantum efficiency of 70 to 90% depending on light frequency. https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/files/97978241/97978242/1/159607...
MIRI has average efficiency of about 50%. https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/files/97977640/97977649/1/159607...
Internal noise of electronics is not significant compared to thermal noise at operating temperature of MIRI (7 Kelvin).
Further small improvements might be possible in the future but no 'orders of magnitude' can be expected without going into even colder temperatures, that would require total redesign.
At the end of the day, efficiency can be offset by simply taking longer exposures so it is nice to have but does not have to be super optimised. Achieving diffraction limit is much more important and JWST's camera do that.
https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/jwst-near-infrared-camera/nircam... https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/jwst-mid-infrared-instrument/mir...
Nancy Grace Roman Telescope to be launched in 2027 is expected to have 75-95% QE for near infrared compared to 70-90% for JWST: https://roman.gsfc.nasa.gov/science/WFI_technical.html
Last upgrade to Hubble near-IR instrument in 2009 (WFC3) has about 75% QE: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bernard-Rauscher/public...
Is it simplified model, real life detectors have more parameters regarding noise and persistence but all produced in past 20 years are close to theoretical limits.
Hubble is 30 years old using 1970s and 1980s tech and it's still a useful scientific instrument. Something with 2013 tech is going to be spectacularly useful in 2022.
So is the telescope sensor able to count each and every photon hitting it, was it already at maximum possible performance?
You can read more about the sensors here:
https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/about/innovations/infrared.htm...
And about the cooler here:
https://webb.nasa.gov/content/about/innovations/cryocooler.h...
Or multiple mirrors spatially separated. Or a single mirror/camera at different positions at different times. Since JWST's orbit around L2 is fairly large, is that going to be used? You mentioned that stability of the platform would be a limit. How well is the position of the JWST known at any given time (I suppose it can be calibrated by viewing well known sources)?
The mirrors are dynamically deformed to correct for some errors, I don't think - but I also don't know for sure - if they are going to do long baseline tricks with the orbit, it would make good sense to do this for paralax shift measurements (which give you a good idea about the distance an object is at), but the orbit of the earth around the sun would be far more useful for that because it is so much larger.
Anyway, there are people on HN that are far more knowledgeable about this stuff than I am, I take it the designers and operators of the JWST are top in their fields and that anything interested laypeople can come up with has been debated, accepted or rejected a decade or more before this conversation, they're far from stupid, as evidenced by the incredible performance so far. Let's hope it stays that way and that the insertion burn goes well, that's the major scary thing that will happen next and the delta-v is nothing like the launch so I would assume that it will all go well but at the same time the telescope wasn't as fragile back then as it is now.
The have zero points of failures that are classified as single-point-of-failure.
Once in a while, the classification turns out to be incorrect, as seen in the 737 MAX crashes, especially the first one.
Boeing still should never have had the MAX system rely on only one AOA sensor.
Were these pilots trained with the new procedure and the other pilots who died not trained?
The thing is, this revealed a vulnerability: real pilots in runaway trim scenarios do not do nearly as well as they do in training. And 737MAX ended up testing crews with runaway trim scenarios at a much higher rate than they had been at the past. Some crews failed.
They trimmed it back to normal a couple times, then just turned it off.
Sounds too simple to be true, but it is true. There's a toggle switch on the console that cuts off power to the trim system. It's there in case of runaway trim.
Safer to say that they're designed and certified attempting to have no single points of failure.
E.g. the MD-83 stab trim jackscrew system. Two nuts were used on the acme screw, on different portions of the screw, driven by redundant gearboxes and motors: no single point of failure! But there were common-mode failures stripping the screw and nuts.
You blow a fuel pump and can’t fuel the engines.
Wings fall off.
I dunno. I can think of a bunch of failure points on a modern airliner.
And as for “the wings fall off” part, makes me remember a quote of an engineer I once read that goes something like this: “The wings are the strongest part of the airplane. If you worry about them ripping apart or falling off, you have way bigger problems than that, like the rest of the plane missing”.
https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/2010/03/index.jpg
I did the calculations for the 757 elevators to show it wouldn't flutter. And yes, it was also verified on the test stand.
https://taskandpurpose.com/history/1983-negev-mid-air-collis...
- https://theaviationist.com/2017/08/16/the-crazy-story-of-the...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Republic_A-10_Thunde...
I discovered this when trying to understand what the barking noise is on airbus planes.
Right. But the plane drops oxygen masks and goes down to a lower altitude.
> You blow a fuel pump and can’t fuel the engines.
Multiple fuel pumps and multiple gas tanks.
> Wings fall off.
Wings have dual internal structure.
> I can think of a bunch of failure points on a modern airliner.
No single point of failure is an FAA requirement.
not catastrophic failure, like you get with a rocket or a helicopter.
Not as small of a risk as you’d expect (though not anything to seriously worry about). This metal fatigue grounded a large chunk of the US training fleet and similar cracks were frequently found in other Piper Arrows (including ours).
How many cycles does the airframe have to go through in order for this to become a problem? I tend to think that if the FAA gave a shit about general aviation maybe we wouldn't be flying planes from the 1960s
My dad's B-17 in WW2 was scrapped after 30 missions, it was considered worn out.
https://theaviationist.com/2014/09/15/f-15-lands-with-one-wi...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2015/06/25/air_france_fli...
What other errors did you find?
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This is probably mankind's most amazing technological achievements bar none.
Also, consider how many (presumably) well paid expert engineers are scientists have been working on this since 1996.
Frankly I wish someone would do an article on the "long tail" possibilities for Webb. Can it do a warm mission after its refrigerant runs out like Spitzer? Does it have low-bandwidth long range communications for when it runs out of fuel and falls out of L2? I feel like we're just supposed to be ok with a ten billion dollar telescope only lasting a decade.
New scientific instruments usually come with a bunch of discoveries, because we are now able to see what we couldn't see before, but there are diminishing returns, because we run out of interesting things to look at.
Some platforms can be upgraded, like the ISS, ground based telescopes, and Hubble in 2009, so that new science can be done, but it is not the case for JWST. So I suspect that there will not be much left to do with it after 10 years, especially if it is not fully operational. It will not be completely useless, but I expect money to be better spent making a new instrument, with better technology and guided by the latest discoveries, than trying to extend the life of an aging instrument that has given most of what it could give.
Engineers are expensive
this is false. NASA has a house-size vacuum chamber that was used for testing. Also the author got the price tag wrong.
I wonder what else about the article is incorrect.
So far I think NASA has done a great job, trough blog posts, videos, websites explaining and visualizing different aspect of JWST in a way that is tangible for laypeople.
Just test it once right side up and once upside-down ;-)
"not designed in a vacuum" was a figure of speech, meaning that testing it was done in the context of previous missions.
> But the JWST was not designed or tested in a vacuum (pun only partially intended)
It's not the clearest writing, even though they are going for a joke.
JWST was not "designed or tested in a vacuum" [in isolation without knowledge of prior art]". But it was designed for vacuum and its parts were tested in a vacuum, including I believe bringing the whole assembly down to cold vacuum.
Designing in a literal vacuum sounds painful for the designers. :)
Well that's just totally wrong.
Or farther away from the sun than the Earth and Moon.
Behind implies in the shadows of Earth.
If a bolt (or rather one quite like it) has been tested successfully 100 times in the expected conditions, chances are it'll work when needed, but I get a sense not all of those parts in the 300 single points could be tested that often (material cost, time, availability of sufficiently large climate chamber capable of simulating outer space condition). Were there actually parts too expensive to test even once? Is JWST sailing on prayers?
The telescope itself will naturally radiate infrared heat (much like our own bodies do), which is exactly what the instrument is trying to measure. This is why they're cooling the instrumentation side to such a cold temperature that it won't emit infrared energy and ruin the science.