>> Apple doesn't make a thermostat but they, along with many others, are moving to Matter. An interoperable, secure, private, open standard i.e. the very opposite of being cloud orientated.

Matter (formerly CHIP)? The protocol whose identity layer is allegedly based on a blockchain [0]? I think it needs the cloud, in the same way Moxie describes it.

[0] https://staceyoniot.com/blockchain-101-how-distributed-trust...