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Long Covid is understood better now as an autoimmune disease that comes from even mild cases.

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/covid-19-can-trigger-s...

This is in addition to worse damage that occurs throughout the body to any ACE2 cell, which are found in the brain along with the entire cardiovascular system and every other major organ in the body.

Hospitalizations in children are rising this year because last year they were out of school and NPI safety was much higher than 2021.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/new-omicron-variant...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/number-babies-toddlers...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-warning-sym...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/school-children-us-covid-hospit...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/07/210716112443.h...

https://twitter.com/rafalab/status/1477302949604995075

https://twitter.com/jneill/status/1476253591677587456

https://mobile.twitter.com/jneill/status/1479066859270025219

117,000 children now living with long Covid +40,000 more than October

20,000 children for longer than a year +6,000 more than October

Children crossing 12,000 children have their "activity limited a lot" +4,000 more than October

None of that is relevant or actionable. Everyone including children will be exposed regardless of what we do. Fortunately the vaccines and other treatments are pretty good at preventing severe symptoms.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646

Your link is an outdated opinion piece from someone who makes money from cancer self help books.

This may come as a surprise to you but contagious respiratory diseases can be prevented.

N95 masks and clean air are known actionable cost effective solutions.

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/wiss-cheese-model...

Do you intend to spend the rest of your life wearing an N95 mask every time you're close to another mammal? Because this respiratory disease isn't going away. You won't be able to avoid it forever.

What's the proposal here, exactly? Should children be kept in hermetic isolation indefinitely to forestall the possibility of long COVID (at least, until a sufficiently infectious variant comes along that even the Ted Kaczynskis of the world get it)?

There may be ACE2 receptors in the brain but what has never been found in the brain so far is SARS-CoV-2. The spike protein crosses the blood brain barrier in mice, but you also get plenty of that from the vaccines which doesn't seem to concern anyone at all.

> 105 children hospitalised with Covid on 27-Dec

With Covid. Not because of Covid. Most children at hospitals with Covid are incidental cases.

Also the long covid figure from children comes from self report. Given the hysteria in some children and some parents I would take this measure with a huge grain of salt.

Protip: don't use emotional Twitter post as your main source of information.

What?

You clearly did not read the report that has proven autoantibodies were detected from mild covid cases associated with long covid symptoms.

How do you explain the rise in children’s hospitalizations in areas with high covid rates?

"A five-fold increase in pediatric admissions in New York City this month. Close to double the numbers admitted in Washington, DC. And nationwide, on average, pediatric hospitalizations are up 48% in just the past week."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/new-omicron-variant...

"An average of 672 children were being hospitalized every day in the US, as of 2 January - more than double the average just a week before. And the rate is rapidly increasing."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/covid-hospit...

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/the-real-...

https://nypost.com/2021/12/25/new-york-dept-of-health-warns-...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/08/26/child-c...

> autoantibodies were detected from mild covid cases associated with long covid symptoms

And? Just because someone has those antibodies doesn't mean he has long-covid.

> How do you explain the rise in children’s hospitalizations in areas with high covid rates?

>"A five-fold increase in pediatric admissions in New York City this month. Close to double the numbers admitted in Washington, DC. And nationwide, on average, pediatric hospitalizations are up 48% in just the past week." https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/new-omicron-variant...

Nothing in the article says because of Covid. And it is very easy to explain in fact. Hospitalizations always surge during holidays. Most notably due to falls and other respiratory viruses such as the flu which is known to be worse in children than covid.

Even so the article cites this data (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#new-hospital-admis...) and says: "US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data released Tuesday showed that on average, 305 children have been in the hospital with Covid-19 on any given day over the week that ended Dec. 26.".

That 305 children in all the US.

The other articles you cited use the same deceptive framing.

Fantastic answer. Thank you.

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