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Comment by DarylZero | Hacker News Reader

Debian should simply not include Rust packages, except `rustup`.

These modern languages are designed to manage internally their own source-based software distribution. Inevitably, when combining with Debian's distribution system, the two redundant approaches step on one another's toes.

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Ultimately it's not the maintainer's role to waste hours untangling the this mess. I do want ripgrep, but I see no value in forcing any particular version of ripgrep's dependencies on other rust programs that happen to use the same crate.

This doesn't work unless the entire dependency chain is Rust. Core libraries like librsvg and libimagequant that are used by a bunch of other things need to be provided by the distro. You're not going to point all of Gnome to "some user's home/.cargo/wherever shared libs go" so it can use graphics libs that have been rewritten in Rust.

I do not want to compile packages from source. It is extremely wasteful. For Rust especially.

Me neither, but that's how Rust is designed. It's not for Debian to change that.

Sorry, I realized you're talking about build dependencies, not eg. individual programs that are written in Rust. I agree rustup should probably be the only Rust build dependency.

This is how python/node/ruby should be managed too.

It makes much more sense to have a thin layer on top that understands and interprets "install youtube-dl" or "upgrade youtube-dl" and delegates most of the work to pipx or something.

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