Iceraven – Firefox for Android fork with more add-ons and configuration options

Thank you!

https://blog.dbmiller.org/2021-08-19-using-fennec-or-mull-fo...

Fennec is also great because it doesn't include Mozilla's sponsored stuff as well.

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name: What-I-want-on-Fenix

Or rather, if you just want extension support, don't use FF. (I for one am very happy with Kiwi. OP fork also sounds nice.)

I keep about 20 tabs open in normal browsing for easy reference. Incognito for most browsing. And Firefox Focus for even more ephemeral stuff, copied links I don't want to touch my other browsing, and screenshots. It sounds a little crazy to write it out, but it works for me.

There's this home screen that is central in the UX that lists top sites and collections and that is the primary way to open things you frequently access. If you have zero tabs or open firefox mobile, that's the screen you see first.

However, I stopped using collections because they somehow got it in their heads that the user wants to add a specific, cached version in time of a website. So I add HN to a collection and then access it and I get a 3 month old version of HN because that's when I added it. That probably makes as much sense to me as it does to you. You can reload the page as "fix". Collections are not bookmark folders. They are not synced as part of your bookmarks. They are not accessible on desktop. They are mobile only. They are completely useless as far as I'm concerned. If you make the mistake of using them, get used to stale content or obsessively refresh every tab manually right after you open it. Seriously WTF?!

Because they have that broken/half assed collection concept in the UX, bookmarks are not very prominent and accessing them is unnecessarily hard. Bookmarks are actually synced and you can access your desktop bookmarks that way. But you have to dive deep into a menu to access them and adding new bookmarks is basically not supported: you can't "star" them like you would on the desktop version. There is no option to add a bookmark for the website you are looking at that is obvious to me other than actually going to the bookmark manager and creating a bookmark by manually copy/pasting the url from the url bar.

As an alternative you can add websites to "top sites", which are not bookmarks (why?!), which is not part of a collection, and which are also not synced. But at least they show you the current version of a web site. Conceptually it's kind of exactly the same as the bookmark toolbar in the desktop version. If you click a top site, it opens a new tab. Always. This is annoying.

I still use it because I like having a working ad blocker and at least some basic protection against google tracking everything I do. But the UX is not a selling point right now. I've used a lot of browsers and mobile browsers over the years and this is probably the worst one in terms of bookmarks, which is a basic feature that even Mosaic had back in the day.

Simple obvious fix: Deprecate collections and replace them with bookmark folders. Implement starring/bookmarking (how is that not a thing?). Make top sites just another bookmark folder (just like the desktop bookmark toolbar). Make collections sub folders of those. It all syncs. It all works.

That also opens the door to supporting firefox containers, which I love and use all the time on desktop. I'd love to have full access to that on mobile.

I'm not sure if this is the fork you want, but to get some of the features that Firefox used to have for years you can't use the normal stable build anymore.