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I am currently beginning a PhD in physics (mathematical modeling, simulation on HPC) in Switzerland, and I am afraid that after my PhD, I won't find a job that really pleases me. These last years, I came under the impression that you currently can only find ML driven software engineering jobs (I am exagerating of course), and having done quite a bit of ML and software engineering, I now know that I don't want my future job be like this.

A company like ASML gives me hope. Do you know by chance if there are similar companies (complex engineering, with physics, maths, chemistry, computer science, ...) that are located in Switzerland ?

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> Do you know by chance if there are similar companies (complex engineering, with physics, maths, chemistry, computer science, ...) that are located in Switzerland?

I've only worked with their products and not a whole lot with the people but Sensirion [0] is very close to Zürich and is ranked one of the best employers in Switzerland while seemingly being at the intersection of the things it seems you're interested in.

Switzerland is also full of manufacturing equipment suppliers (e.g. Schaublin and GF Machining Solutions, the entire "Watch Valley") and manufacturing is full of intersections between physics/maths/chemistry/software engineering.

Plus there's the pharmaceutical companies.

For a small country, I think Switzerland is about the best place for you to be.

[0] https://www.sensirion.com/en/

Thanks for the tip.

>Do you know by chance if there are similar companies (complex engineering, with physics, maths, chemistry, computer science, ...) that are located in Switzerland ?

AFAIK, Switzerland is full of such companies. Especially since CERN and many top universities and research institutes are there.

Well, I am already beginning my PhD at a top university. I would be more interested to hear about what kind of jobs are in the industry in Switzerland.

Sorry, I don't remember exactly which companies by name, otherwise I would have spelled them out for you, since I did this research 10 years ago when I was considering moving to study in Switzerland, so, I hope I cause you no offense, but I feel researching the job market is what you should have also done your due diligence on, before starting your PhD/studies ("I wanna study X, but where can I work later and use X?")

No problems. You are right, it is always good to research the job market before beginning the studies. I was just asking out of curiosity, because the job descriptions at ASML really peaked my interested.

A lot of FLUKA radiation simulations at CERN if you like that !

The environment is nice, but the area personally didn't work out for me.

If you don't mind moving to Germany, check out Carl Zeiss (SMT).

We supply the optics to ASML and also make our own semi equipment directly sold to fabs. Lots of growth and interesting challenges at the cutting edge of physics.

Synopsys still has an office in Switzerland, to the best of my knowledge, and this sounds like it might be along the line of work you're interested in.

This comment makes me wonder how much ML is used at ASML or if there is an growing trend ...

I recommend you check out the ASML / Brion campus in Silicon Valley.

Can’t tell you the exact details but you should be able to find details from the patents, papers, and tech talks from ASML.

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