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Ivermectin is not horse dewormer, characterizing it as such is just lazy propaganda. It's primarily human dewormer. The whole idea of it being a house dewormer came about because the medicine intended for human use sold out around the initial hype, and desperate people bought the doses intended for animals instead.

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If you got it from your doctor it's for humans. If you're eating out of a tube that say it's for horses with a picture of a horse on it then you're eating horse dewormer paste. If you don't want people saying you're eating horse dewormer go to your damn doctor.

So horse paste then - and it is still idiotic to use it as a Covid treatment.

Rogan had a prescription for the human version, please do your research.

Well I have done enough "research" to tell the difference between an intestinal worm and a virus.

Many medicines have multiple uses that are not at all related. For example, Botox is used for stretching old skin to look nice but also used to treat migraines. Ketamine is horse tranquilizer but is also used to treat depression, etc

Minor nitpick: Botox doesn't stretch skin, it relaxes facial muscles that cause a "wrinkled" appearance.

thanks for the correction

Ivermectin is not only used for deworming. Low information comment.

(...much like your comment) It's an anti-parasitic medication. Doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect.

Research failed to confirm the utility of Ivermectin for treating COVID-19. [1] Much of the research indicating otherwise was fraudulent or misleading. [2]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8406455/

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809

Statement #1: "Lol idiots this is horse dewormer!"

Statement #2: "This suggested treatment does not have the desired effect in clinical trials. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8406455/"

Can you agree that those are entirely different statements? And that one is trolling while the other is informative?

1 infers 2.

I don’t believe 1 infers 2.

2 is useful information and additive to conversation

1 is just juvenile and belongs to Reddit not hacker news

1 infers 1 is an idiot.

There's no substantial evidence that Ivermectin effectively treats COVID-19 in humans, or that it should be taken as an alternative to being vaccinated.

A worm is a parasite (which Ivermectin effectively treats). A parasite (in this sense) is not a virus. Ivermectin does not treat the COVID-19 virus. The GP was glib and insulting but not entirely off base.

He probably had worms

I don't know much about ivermectin (could be useless, don't know or care), but your framing makes as much sense as saying people think injecting mold in their butt will cure syphilis.

It's lazy, but from what I have heard from people I trust (which itself is lazy, since I haven't searched journal articles) is that there is absolutely no scientific evidence that Ivermectin is a useful therapeutic for covid infection.

You are correct that the "horse dewormer" meme was due to desperate people buying industrial amounts, not human amounts, from vet supply shops. It's worth mocking because these people are desperately avoiding mainstream medical advice per se.

And to think a comedy show framed it better than their mainstream counterparts..

Here's Jimmy Dore's [1] segment referencing a WaPo article [2] and Dr. John Campbell's [3] analysis on why "Japan is doing better" because of this stupid "horse dewormer" narrative.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S5YG7X52PE

[2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/22/japan-covid-...

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g

The best thing would be to just call it a dewormer

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