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Olvid: “the most secure messenger in the world”

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The „text different“ section literally describes what any other messenger does.

I've never encountered a mobile texting application that allows replies to specific messages, only replying to the entire thread in general

Both WhatsApp and iMessage have supported this feature for a while.

iMessage's version takes the message and makes a thread out of it, and then inside that thread you are only ever "responding to the thread in general". The good versions are WhatsApp and (now) Facebook Messenger (though I think the UX is still better on WhatsApp).

I was thinking only about 3rd-party messengers.

iMessage sucks.

Source: I stopped using Whatsapp a couple of weeks ago and moved go signal & imessage. Most messages are iMessage currently. Since i use iMessage that much, I have realized how bad it is compared to any other messenger…

Telegram has this. In fact you can only reply to specific messages as threads don’t exist.

Signal, WhatsApp and even Messenger have it.

Bumble as well, despite not solely a chat app

Signal and Matrix/Element do this.

I do this all the time on Element.

> Inability of the operator to know "who is talking to whom". No third party could ever identify the participants, not even the server. No trace of any metadata.

Can somebody explain how this is achieved? How does the server know where to deliver messages?

How does this differ from what Signal offers?

No associated phone number and no contact uploads

Not open source? Pass.

The server is indeed not open-source. But the clients have been recently open-sourced: https://github.com/olvid-io

How do they make money?

As is the case with a lot of messengers, they try to sell their product to enterprises. Pricing for that is available on their site as well:

https://olvid.io/enterprise/en/

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