Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
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But even this craving in such an environment stopped after a few more months.
I never smoked indoors so when I started e-cigs the habit only got worse and instead of a habit that required a break every hour or two to go outside and have a cigarette, I was just vaping all day throughout any activity.
I finally quit with patches ~10 months ago, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't still have cravings.
The breaking point was when I decided to see an addiction specialist instead of trying to wage the war on my own
My advice is to buy some flavored toothpicks. I bought some minty ones from Amazon and they do a great job of satisfying any oral fixation you've got, and placating the habit of wanting to do something with your hands when you've got a free moment. It admittedly doesn't make quitting cold-turkey any more fun, but it certainly helps to trick your brain for a while.
Because it was grandfathered in. If you ban it, you fuck up a ton of people hooked on it. I can't imagine what the assault / homicide / suicide rate would spike to for the next decade or two.
Yes. [1][2] Most studies are on electronic cigarettes and gum but they show the effects are dose/absorption dependent with pure nicotine, so pills are extremely unlikely to behave differently.
[1] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40138-020-00219-0
[2] https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1038/clpt.1...
Many people don't get enough fiber in their diet anyway. Just be sure to start drinking more water to overcome the, err, digestive difficulties of higher fiber consumption.
Wait, what? You had a sprocket on each side of your rear wheel and you flipped the wheel around to change gears?
Or did you exchange front/rear wheel, each having a different sprocket?
https://cyclistzone.com/what-is-a-flip-flop-hub/
In my case (scroll back 35 years), I would ride a fixed gear around the city, but change to the single-speed freewheel for Toronto's legendary "Doughnut Ride" that left Laird & Eglinton every weekend rain or shine, snow, sleet, or hail.
In very olden times, riders would dismount and flip their wheels around in the middle of a Grand Tour before climbing the big mountain. But in contemporary riding, flip-flop hubs are just a convenience of sorts that make it easy to decide what gear you want to use for each ride, I have never flipped the wheel in the middle of a ride.
p.s. I still have one bike with a flip-flop hub: It's a 24" trials bike, and while I run an 18t freewheel on the cranks, the flip-flop lets me choose between a 15t for pure trials work or a 12t for goofing around and having a tall enough gear to ride places, like on my local double black-diamond MTB trails.
What can I say, I idolized Nelson Vails!
The owners admonished me to get a bike with gears before I destroyed my knees. I did not listen, and perhaps that—or twenty years of Ultimate, or twenty-five years of rock climbing—did them in for me.
When I was riding most of the couriers I met were chain-smokers, often cruising the streets with a cigarette hanging from their mouths. Very insular counter-culture, very opinionated about bikes. And in my limited experience, very little overlap with the rest of cycling culture.
For the broader public, Bike R a v e and Bike P a r t y are the Toronto events that usually happen over summer. Usually starts a bit earlier (9PM?) with various stops in parks and blocking of intersections to keep the group together. obviously there’s zero chance of getting a permit. Fun times!
There’s also some alley cat events that are races.
Caffeine is very addictive for me though, and it gives physical withdrawals.
On the other hand, some of my friends in college picked up smoking, then quit once they started working and they said it was pretty easy.
> I tried vaping Juul aggressively for a few weeks to try to get addicted
This is fucking moronic.
> Very light effects, or more nauseous than anything if you have enough
the nausea is most likely from nicotine poisoning. because going from no nicotine tolerance to aggressive vaping is a really bad idea.
> It is somewhat baffling to me that anyone would find it addictive
Most people start gradually, not in an aggressive attempt to form a dependence. There’s a reason why “sit down and smoke the whole pack” is often an effective punishment for teens caught smoking.
Why?
> more nauseous than anything if you have enough
Enough to poison yourself.
I’m just asking, not really familiar with vaping stuff.
Lots of people gave me this advice the few times I was addicted, I ignored them all and simply thought they were talking down to me ("of course, I know it's bad for you", "I can quit whenever I want") so I understand if you interpret it that way. Once you've seen yourself or a loved one go through it and survive (or worse) you have a different reaction, a bit like seeing someone standing on the tracks while a train is approaching. Wishing you good health.
Took another 5 years to quit again. This time for good.
I have no idea what was the mechanism second time, but I “just quit”. Cold turkey. I have zero interest in even one drag now.
I sometimes would take a friend’s cigarette and hold it in my mouth, pretend-smoking, inhaling and exhaling, making all those sweet smoking lip maneuvers, as if I am making rings or pushing smoke through my nostrils. No desire to light it at all
But eventually I started smoking again, and so I tried to use an e-cig like the previous time. But circumstances were different, e-cigs were different (nicotine salts), and now I consume 2x the nicotine than I did from a pack of smokes.
It's too good. It's convenient, always on you, always ready to go. No unpleasant taste or smell. No need to go outside in the winter. And cheaper, despite the increased intake noted above.
There's a lot more we need to know, and for now I still believe that vaping is not as bad as cigarettes, but I'm sorry to see we once again hooked a generation on an addictive harmful substance.
Smokers/vapers, stop giving the rest of society more reasons to dislike your habits.
And also, why conflate smoking with vaping? They are completely different in terms of immediate and lingering odor, as well as second hand effects.
We are because I cannot count the amount of times I've seen ignorant vape clouds billowing away from someone or smelling a fruity floral vape aroma in places where its not allowed. All vapes have done is make it easier for people to smoke where they shouldn't.
I'm not sure if it's due to lawmaker/parent ignorance, or an actual plan by larger tobacco companies.
Probably a mix of both.
The states scrambled to delay and regulate ecigs just enough to figure out how to tax it because they were afraid of losing revenue from cigarette taxes. They were not just haplessly corrupt but active in that effort.
I hear permutations of this theory mentioned a lot, but I'm not sure I buy it. The political incentives just aren't there on an individual level. It would require politicians on both sides of the aisle to be actively interested in budgetary policy. The reality is that there is a strong survival bias among politicians to be almost obsessively focused on party fund-raising and perpetual campaigning. It has become exceedingly rare for politicians to be bothered working on bi-partisan legislation that isn't culture war bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Master_Settlement_Agre...
>It would require politicians on both sides of the aisle to be actively interested in budgetary policy.
They are much more so at the state level because states can't print money.
It’s not so black and white, and it’s definitely not niche anymore.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/sgr/2020-smoking...
E-cigarette aerosols vary greatly, as well as the temperatures that various devices heat them to.
> as any smoker that was into vaping could and did tell you
Anecdotal evidence may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases.
The tobacco industry is making lots of money off of these and can sell them in flavors that were banned in cigarettes a long time ago (opening up the market to kids again).
edit: I have just written my comments in good faith. I don't know what distorted view of yourself you have, to expect people will prove something to you.
> in the time when they didn't capture the market yet
Big Tobacco entered the market around 2012-2013.