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Hopefully by removing the SIM tray, they have now enough space to put the headphone jack back.

(bit of sarcasm but I really miss headphone jacks in mobile phones)

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Too optimistic, Headphone jack takes so much space, that they can't put it on even ipad pro 12.9" /s

I laughed :D

> but I really miss headphone jacks in mobile phones

Buy a USB-C/Lightning to 3.5mm dongle and leave it permanently attached. Not ideal I know.

But one benefit is that the DAC Apple designed in that dongle is so good that the sound quality far exceeds any phone with a built-in 3.5mm jack.

It's very good indeed, but last I recall it measured slightly worse than the built-in 3.5mm Jack in previous iPhones. But it still likely exceeds transparency especially for the form-factor and use case.

> ...far exceeds any phone with a built-in...

This is absolutely not true, there are a ton of phones with better DAC/amp combos than the one on the Apple dongle (and even when the dongle is better, it's frequently not better by enough to be audibly different). Unfortunately some of the best analog audio came on phones that were made by LG who threw in the towel last year.

While "far exceeds" is a bold claim, the Apple dongle (specifically the A2049 model) is widely regarded as a great DAC for the money.[1]

[1]: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r...

Have you seen the 13? It is almost fat enough for a 1/4" jack.

I don't understand this sentiment, instead of pleading with a phone manufacturer to implement certain features why not put your money where your mouth is and, you know, buy any of the pleothra of phones out there that do have a headphone jack.

It's just tongue-in-cheek banter, don't take it too literally. Besides, Apple devices make a sizeable portion of the market and have 'ecosystem' buy-in features that many other phones (w or w/o h jacks) don't have.

Yes, because the ONLY feature I take into account when buying a new device that I carry in my pocket literally every day of my life is how good the headphone jack is.

Because it's not possible. I need a ~5.5" Android phone, with SD Card, OLED, 2 SIM, headphone jack and 3 years of software updates. Not sure there is a phone like that, so I don't know what I will be doing when my current phone dies.

I have more or less the same requirements and the Fairphone 3+ did it for me. Only downside is that spare parts take a long time (3+ months) to be back in stock.

Maybe check out last gen phones that are supported by LineageOS? That's what I'll do once my OnePlus 3 (still getting updates with LOS) dies or is too slow.

The Sony Xperia line up has SD card slots, headphone back, and dual SIM capability. I don't think they have OLED, but the screens get good reviews. Looks like you can expect only 2 years of updates though.

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