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Same goes for twitch. Found this cozy stream and followed. Was called out, wished a merry christmas.

Wanted to say thanks, but couldn't, because apparently "verified accounts only chat" is a thing.

Well, not gonna share my phone number with the world.

My phone number is kinda holy to me.

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A lot of smaller Streamer only allow verified accounts only because there is a lot of spam happening and they don't have enough mods to deal with that

Was the first small streamer with such a restriction for me. (Mostly following small streamers, being a tiny one myself ;))

That's totally fine, I am not mad at them, I understand their motives.

It's then just simply not for me, is all.

You'll also enable it when your chat starts getting flooded with spam bots.

Na, I'll code a counter measure on stream and have fun with it.

Or just leave twitch g

Just an unimportant hobby, is all ;)

It does however sound like you put the blame on Twitch. Streamers are demanding more ways to combat spam. The community wants more intrusive verification, not less.

There is no sound in written word. While I totally get what you mean (being a non native speaker), I don't care as much as I did.

It's the same tone for me as was used on Discord. There it's also not discord, but the server owners (as I learned a few comments down)

Apart from that: yes, I somehow blame the "give us your phonenumber approach". It's a lazy solution and a couple of years back, before the "war on terror/drugs/childporn/whatever" we used to get sim cards without r egistration and a DNA test (the later is a slight exaggeration ;))

And of course big companies such as Amazon or Discord love data such as the phone number.

It's a super data point to link profiles across a variety of services

Is there really a lot of spam? In my experience, I just saw a robot subscription storm once in the past year at a small streamer (~100 people). I watch twitch roughly 3hr+/day.

That's up to the broadcaster not Twitch, everyone can set on their own.

https://i.imgur.com/im2JAkc.png

Well aware. It's not the only stream I am interested in.

Also similar to discord, because so far I wasn't forced to add a number there.

Maybe it's not up to the server owner, but it's also not mandatory on the whole discord platform

Up to the server owners

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/216679607-What...

Thanks, so it's actually totally similar to Twitch.

Also not very inclusive, if you ask me.

I know people who have no phone on purpose :)

Unfortunately a lot of twitch streamers get some very unpleasant spam attacks - things like racist chat flooding using bots.

Requiring an account to be verified, or a follower, or in extreme cases a subscriber is the only practical response as twitch moderation tools are practically useless.

Uhm that thing about the phone number is a totally losing battle. You should adapt by getting a burner phone with a separate number.

Or I just don't use such services.

I know it's not en vogue, but abstinence is one possible solution.

I don't feel like having to pay 10€/year for a burner phone (so the SIM isn't deactivated)

It's fine, I can live without most of these services just fine.

And if I can't any longer, I will walk that bridge then.

How do you achieve multi factor auth at all then, if you regard tour phone number to be a secret.

I only have multi factor auth enabled for clients of mine

Apart from that I use strong passwords.

Wasn't hacked in over 20 years :)

Your password can be as strong as it can possibly be, but a lot of services nowadays require MFA.

Correct and I don't use most of such services.

I survived without them before, I will now.

And I have more spare time then, to read, to exercise, to enjoy nature, to code...

TOTP does not require a phone number, and it's not vulnerable to SIM jacking.

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