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Ah I still play a lot of BGEE/BG2EE (judging from the time spent on Steam it's well into 200+ hours for each game) nowadays. I'm also picking up NWNEE as there are a lot of high quality modules.

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The release of Baldur's Gate 3 caused some controversy due in part to its turn-based combat system (distict from the real-time system in BG 1 & 2). TBF, it felt like this was more about purists disagreeing with an aethetic choice within a much-loved franchise than about fundamental hostility to turn-based games in general.

I have never played BG3. Plan to make a purchase when it's done. I kinda dislike the early access model.

BG2 system was also turn based, it just remembered previous command you issued and repeated it, and didn’t pause automatically after every turn.

You could dodge spells in BG2 as they have travel time, you can't dodge spells in a normal turn based system. Also spells have different casting times, some cast instantly others were so slow that people could walk up and hit you before the cast got done. There are many such differences, BG2 is in no way a turn based game. Its real time combat did simulate turns for spell and attack cooldowns etc, but even those weren't properly aligned to turns, a spell cast time could take a fraction of a turn, and travel time for spells were also fractions of turns etc. So wasn't turn based no matter how you view it.

BG 1 and 2 were both turn-based. It didn’t automatically stop at the end of a turn unless you configured it to. But that’s the configuration I have, because that’s what I’ve always played with and prefer, from the day the first version of BG was released.

The lack of turn-based game play is why I avoid most other games.

My problem with it is that combat slows to an absolute crawl and becomes a slog with that system. In BG a fight with a few rats takes 2 seconds. In Divinity OS and BG3 it's more like a few minutes for even the simplest battle, and much longer for larger ones. Multiply that by the length of the game and combat becomes a dreaded chore, at least for the impatient like myself

The real problem is that there are too many useless fights with trash mobs. Removing most of them and keeping only the challenging and memorable ones would be a better thing.

Another option is an option to switch between real-time with pause and turn-based at will. The Pathfinder games do that.

Back in the day - I used to mod the non-EE versions, but now I just play the EE ones.

'Go for the eyes, Boo, go for the eyes!'

NWNEE looks good, I played also Tides of Numenara, which is a 'spiritual successor' of Planescape Torment.

I always felt like Minsc's character was absolutely insufferable, in the same way that people who endlessly quote Monty Python and the Holy Grail think that "your father smelt of elderberry" is the pinnacle of humor.

Yeah, both examples where the people quoting it miss that the out-of-place context of the thing they're quoting is what made it funny, not the words alone.

They are wrong. "He's fallen in the water" is the pinnacle of humor :)

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