It was never my intention to insult anyone and especially I didn't intend to insult you specifically and if it sounded like that I am really sorry and regret it.I was trying to say it figuratively. In general. I read carefully what you say and agree with you on some points. English isn't my first language and may be my attempt to use figurative speech went too far because the intention was to merely describe tendency of avoiding certain level of responsibility by some people and that tendency is something I do not like in general. Nothing more. Of course I do not wish to claim that some one who bought some machine immediately become 'naive children' and I understand that one can deal only so much with the machine and it's problems when real work needs to be done. And as you've noted I by myself had to buy M1 because I write missing file manager for it . I see no absolutism in my position as I claim what I like and try to get as close to that as possible. If you go even deeper into my past comments you will not need to suggest anything because you will find detailed description of all problems I had with M1 and the other Mac model before it. I am not hiding it nor consider it an insult to have one. I am trying to call things for what they really are to my best knowledge but it is not my intention to insult you or someone who have bought M1 or any other machine for that matter. I am sorry if it sounded for you this way.

>If you're going to end with ad hominem attacks, you don't deserve it.

No I am not going to end with any attacks. I am trying to avoid any attacks and trying to argue for the topic in general. This is my internal guideline and if by some reason I did deviate from it I apologize because this is not my intention.

> you don't deserve it. You've made it clear to everyone here what kind of person you are, and I shouldn't be wasting my time replying.

Who deserves what in your perspective of the world it is of course for you to decide for yourself. Still, with all respect, I think you went there too much personal and I think it would be certain exaggeration to suggest that you can know what kind of person I am and I do not understand what makes you think you are entitled to speak for others here. What kind of person I am or not doesn't really even matter here. When you answer me you are not only answering to me personally. It is the general point that matter so consider sharing something you already typed for the sake of others if my apology wasn't enough.

As to your criticism I am not perfect and make mistakes but I do check my mirror constantly so I hope we can avoid certain 'too early' conclusions that might be incorrect. If there are things other then those two words please point to them in a respectful manner.

You've suggested that my position is an absolutist position and I do not see absolutism in it. You have baby or you don't. If they control computer then they do. Nuances come after that. How much of it you accept for the moment is a separate question. I never been accused for absolutism before. I do not know why you suggest it as you can well see it by yourself that I do compromise and buy something like M1 because at the moment according even to your point it might be not the worse compromise. So perhaps suggestion of absolutism for simple wish to have own computer under own control is misplaced.

In general I simply wish computer that I fully control . I do not need 'safety' provided by someone unfamiliar to me and I wish to avoid situation where I have to choose only between bad options non of which deliver what I need. I hope you can see some logic behind this point.

I have nothing to do with FSF by the way so please take it into account because it's also incorrect to put me in the same camp with them (at least so far). I share some of their views just as I can share some of your views when they are well grounded. For instance if you claim that FSF standards for the hardware aren't enough nor consistent I can see your point. It's hard to say you are correct or not it still needs some thinking about it and this is what it's all about. To hear the point and to think about it. I have nothing against you personally. If I wish to insult or attack I do it with very different tone and then it's hard to confuse with something else so there is no need to look for insults in other places when I am simply trying to express certain point of view as clear as I can.I hope I didn't waste my time explaining all of this to you.

With all that said and understanding your emotion I apologize for those two words if they delivered wrong message. Still I think staying on the subject and delivering your points was more important than getting personal and showing disrespect. I hope you can come back to the points and put personal things and some incorrect suggestions aside.