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If you run your own datacenter, there is also the opportunity cost of slowing down R&D and new development work.

Let's say the year is 2012 and Redshift is introduced, completely changing how organizations can generate insights from their data. Running your own datacenter? good luck waiting for the ops team to install something similar! It might take you a couple of quarters assuming they are already competent at it. On the Cloud? Press a few buttons and you're off to the races.

velocity is a competitive advantage

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What? Vertica exists since 2005. New products/services come and go. If that precious data truly has so much value, then it is already being processed in your inhouse system.

These new services are nice for startups and for eventually outsourcing... Aaaand of course for upselling to folks who are already in the faith.

Velocity is and advantage. Yes, but if you really see a brutally good deal with some new AWS service there's nothing preventing you from using it, DC or no DC.

So what you're saying is on premises you need competence to do things but in cloud incompetence is no problem!

These are arguments that wreak of developers who don't see the need to worry about things like 'cost,' 'reliability' and 'efficiency' because of the need to be 'innovative' and breaking stuff faster to win the market.

I'm sure it's fine so long as the developers are really competent.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Redshift's value proposition was not that it was the first DWH system, but that it was the first one that could scale up and down and be charged by the minute.

Is this how people really think?

It’s definitely the message cloud marketing has been cramming into people’s brains, and most of them are falling for it. Why am I seeing cloud ads in an airport, and never ads for any other low level technology like Ethernet or LDAP? Because they’re doing an end-run around tech people and targeting CEOs with these completely unrealistic messages.

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