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I don’t “buy” the cookware argument. A cast iron skillet, a pot, and a good saucepan are enough for most folks, can be acquired for under a hundred bucks.

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> A cast iron skillet, a pot, and a good saucepan are enough for most folks,

There's a reason 99% of people have non-stick aluminum cookware. Everything else is horrible, and I say that from bitter experience. How often do you scramble eggs on your cast iron skillet?

That said...

> can be acquired for under a hundred bucks.

You can certainly get a small set of non-stick aluminum cookware with induction plates built in for under $100, however, it's not the easiest thing to find in the first place.

I hear your argument about the needs of tenants and don’t disagree about your general point. I just wanted to add that I’ve given up entirely on non-stick skillets. The finish inevitably comes off that I probably ate or it loses it’s non-stick properties (presumably from microscopic portions coming off that I probably ate) and I have to bin it.

So I actually do cook scrambled eggs (and omelets) in a well seasoned carbon steel pan. I’ve made eggs fried over easy in my cast iron. It requires butter and the pan has to be the right temperature (it sticks more if you start too cold), but it’s doable.

It does stick a touch more than non-stick, but it’s not difficult to clean by any measure.

I had the same experience as you. Thought I was doing something wrong and went with an expensive coated pan. Still lost its nonstick after a year. Have since changed to uncoated pans from tramontina. It took some time understanding temperatures with the pans as sticking and burning both can be avoided, but are much more apparent with these. I actually asked a salesperson to upsell me their expensive coated pans and the amount of work they laid out was basically the same as my uncoated pans, except that mine will not stop working because some proprietary magic dust isn't working anymore

We’ve been using All Clad non-stick pans (below) heavily for maybe 8 years and they haven’t lost their non-stickiness. We tried many others, including a different kind of All Clad non-stick that didn’t last even a year, we’re very happy with these.

https://www.amazon.com/All-Clad-E785S264-Anodized-Nonstick-D...

Ikea, $60. Or $15 for an even cheaper set.

Maybe this is because induction hobs are much more common in Europe.

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/annons-5-piece-cookware-set-gla...

I'm in the US. I went and checked the pots and pans in my kitchen. Out of five pots four are magnetic. And we have a cast iron pan. I assume that means they'd work on an induction stove.

>How often do you scramble eggs on your cast iron skillet?

Every time I make scrambled eggs. It isn't difficult. I don't even see what you are getting at with this question.

Same. “As often as I scramble eggs.”

> How often do you scramble eggs on your cast iron skillet?

Almost daily, through there are things one leearn. Butter is a must, especially in term of flavor, and if you fry bacon before then you need to let it cool down for a bit or the egg white will get bubbly.

I find the cultural aspect interesting. Non-stick teflon frying pans tend to degrade over time and as such, do not get passed down when people here move out. It was also not something that we used when I was young since they easily broke if misused. That is th part I suspect will change with time.

I cook on cast-iron twice a day, just about anything. Once you actually learn how to cook on it, there are zero problems with sticking or anything else. Tends to be healthier than cooking on a nonstick surface as well.

And yes we make quite a lot of eggs, scrambled and fried, works just perfectly without a mess.

Seasoned carbon steel woks are a lot better for most non-acidic foods then teflon; they are truly non-stick.

I ONLY use a cast iron pan. Every flatmate we've had have ended up scratching the shit out of our non-sticks (even after educating them on how to use it...).

Cooking on cast iron is great- you simply heat it on a low temp with some oil on the surface first, and scrambled eggs / ommelet is no problem.

It's pretty heavy to hold with one hand, but overtime I've gained stronger wrist strength and can handle it no problem now.

We're on our third non stick, but the cast iron is still going strong.

> Every flatmate we've had have ended up scratching the shit out of our non-sticks (even after educating them on how to use it...).

The rule is simple: those pans must never even be looked at by something metallic during use or cleaning. Wood or plastic are fine. I use wooden tools. Fingernails are not OK too.

Of course flatmates use to be quite anarchic and careless especially young ones.

What happens to wooden tools after they are used? In my experience they end up in the dishwasher where they get ruined.

Try bamboo. Can be soaked, it's great.

I put wooden spoons in the dishwasher. They don't last as long as they might, but they cost €1.

I'll handwash more expensive wooden tools.

I wash them with my hands. Dish soap and warm water.

Flatmates can also do bad things to cast iron, e.g. dump them in the dishwasher and let them rust. Can't tell you how many times I've had to reseason a pan. After a point I just stopped trying to educate them and said, "you buy your own stuff and feel free to ruin it if that's how you want to treat your stuff".

I don’t understand why carbon steel isn’t more popular in the US.

Other than heat retention, it’s as good if not better than cast iron in every way, and it’s way lighter to boot.

Agreed. We (US) own a couple carbon steel pans of different sizes. Incredible cookware for <$100 total. Far and away cheaper than our Le Creuset cookware and in many respects just as good

> There's a reason 99% of people have non-stick aluminum cookware. Everything else is horrible

Onyx pans are amazing in every way (nonstick, scratchproof, dishwasher safe, induction ready) but not yet sold in the US I think: https://onyxcookware.de/

There are similar ones sold on AliExpress that would presumably ship to the US, e.g.: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mr49PaC

cheap pans are 3 for $12, 8x as cost effective

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