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$15 per month is a little nuts - I don't know anyone who pays for Youtube Premium - Though they piloted Youtube lite overseas for $5 per month but it's seems unlikely they will bring it to the states - If they do roll it out, I will subscribe

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Quick note: $15.99 through in app purchase, $11.99 through the website.

YT Premium gives me a lot - YT is transformed when you don’t have ads, can have it playing in the background while on another app (there’s a Picture in Picture beta I’m using at the moment which works great). Also downloads and Music.

If you're on Android, you get all of this with NewPipe[0].

[0] https://newpipe.net/

Also vanced (nonfree): https://vancedapp.com/

Just fyi for others nonfree as in freedom, not as in beer. plus it has sponserblock built in to auto skip in-video ads.

Not really. The cost of NewPipe is that you cannot log in, effectively forking the user experience in terms of content discovery, subscription management and watch history (versus the usual browser or app experience). There are not any decent workarounds for this.

On the other hand, I see this as a positive.

The less insight YT has into me the better.

That being said, I understand how this could be a negative to some.

I've found the experience of content discovery on YouTube to be absolutely abysmal. Tiktok introduces me to new videos each time I open it, even suggesting things that I've never demonstrated an interest in but which are still fascinating. Meanwhile YouTube keeps suggesting the same videos again and again each time I open it up, and they all seem to be based on the last few videos I've watched.

Missing out on YouTube content discovery isn't a huge loss.

Also includes YT Music, making it not much more expensive than other streaming music services if you're willing to use it over something like Spotify.

I really really wish I could love Youtube Music. But I just cant. It is even worst than Apple Music.

I've been using it. It's gotten a lot better than when it first came out. Super annoying that they released a product that was far inferior (and probably still is inferior) to Google Play music and forced everyone to switch.

>It's gotten a lot better than when it first came out.

Thanks. May be I will check it out again.

Google has been trying to diversify outside of search + Google Apps but everything they try just feels janky and doomed for the graveyard in a couple of years anyway. Stadia, Chromebooks, Google Home, Wifi, Fiber, all of the Nest stuff post-acquisition, Fi… they all seem like they start off with a bang, then go nowhere and just fizzle for a few years before getting the axe. It makes it hard to get excited about anything they announce. I think Facebook has been doing this too.

At the end of the day, they’re advertising companies trying to be something more.

I pay for YT Music. YouTube Premium is just bonus since I seldom use YouTube. YT Music is still not as good as Google Play Music was, but it’s better than Spotify imho.

Also, pretty sure I pay $10 not $15.

I do. Worth it to me to get rid of ads. Plus I like supporting creators without having to sign up for umpteen Patreons.

And it’s $12/mo from the site (not in-app).

Just VPN to India, you get 3 months of Premium for like $5 in total. It works fine without VPN after the initial sign up.

Would this require a local billing address?

Yeah, but using an Indian address generator works fine.

it works everywhere you might want to watch youtube. xbox, phone, smart tv, computer, tablet, hell probably my old gameboy DS.

guess it depends on how much youtube you consume. personally it was a no brainer.. less than an hour's worth of work a month to pay for it? now i only see ads when i get signed out of youtube.

It must vary between regions, it's 1790 HUF for me, which translates to ~$5.5.

Also, why is it nuts?

in india is for example 1.55 euros / month, just move there or get a vpn

I started paying when my kids got into YouTube. It was either that or blocking it altogether.

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