Feds to take over Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac
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Recent background article:
http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=1...
about nationalisation:
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=1....
http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Effect-Business-Delusions-Manager...
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/from-good-t...
If the people leading the company are the same, though, then it would seem to contradict his theory, which (as I recall) places the greatest emphasis on that factor.
In short, the bond market won't treat this as news until some concrete announcement comes out -- it's already been priced in. It's only the common equity holders who are reacting, since any deal will likely wipe them out.
"FDIC Fridays" or in this case "Fed Fridays"
would the fed. gov bail out general motors, boeing or google if those are in the verge of bankrupting?
http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=1...
An extremely oversimplified answer is that it would hurt confidence in the dollar, which would further damage its status as the foreign federal reserve currency, which would cause further inflation in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler#Government_loan_guaran...
We are seriously compromising the well-being of future generations of this country in order to bail-out over-consuming house-owners and fat-cats in Wall Street. Absolutely outrageous.
Since Fannie and Freddie were implicitly backed by the Fed, they were able to leverage their capital much more than a normal bank in taking on loans -- only a few percent of their issued loans were backed up by real money. These beasts were designed to be too big to fail, and in the unlikely event that they did fail, the companies' histories indicated that the Fed would step in. This is a huge advantage for the two companies, and over the years they essentially squeezed other banks out of the prime mortgage market.
The entire housing market therefore depends on the ability of Fannie and Freddie to buy up the mortgage loans that other banks issue. Without them, the pool of available capital to support those loans would suddenly shrink dramatically, meaning much fewer loans can be issued. Meaning none of us could buy a house for the next few years.
The Fed is stepping in because (1) they created both companies originally, though they cut the umbilical cord at some point; (2) they're still tied into the companies' finances in various ways; and (3) crippling the housing market and setting off a chain reaction of more bank collapses is not something this economy needs, particularly in an election year. There are a few other government-sponsored enterprises that would also get this sort of rescue if needed. Boeing isn't one of them, but as a matter of national security, I doubt the government would allow them to fail. (I still can't quite explain why Bear Stearns got bailed out, but they did.)
The housing market does not need Fannie and Freddie. What it needs is a stable provider of liquidity (a broker for the secondary mortgage market). Let Fannie and Freddie fail, and simultaneously introduce an explicitly-backstopped liquidity mechanism/agency.
Given that the bonds are backed by mortgages taken out by those very same American taxpayers, it doesn't seem all that unfair. (And all those T-bills, as well as the mortgage bonds, were bought by dollars paid to overseas businesses to buy lots of cheap goods for American consumers).
It looks like a good time to buy Fannie & Freddie stock!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/31/64417/6293/543/55984...
Either the offered price is less than what these assets could otherwise be sold for (i.e. the transaction won't happen) or it's more (in which case the price criticism doesn't make sense).
Other than that, decent but fear-mongering article. Pretty much any scheme by which you exchange cash for a set of promised future cash payments is bound to be abused at some point. There is very little new here, except that this is another quasi-guaranteed asset.
It's got to suck for anyone how owned shares of either of these two firms. Down something like 80% this year. Ouch!
Well, now that they have been nationalized, it's more like 100%. From my understanding (as gleaned from the Economist), this will wipe out shareholders, both common and preferred.
But either way, I think the Feds are doing a good thing, as these guys were pulling Enron-style shenanigans, (guaranteeing their own mortgages, etc) and dominating the conforming mortgage market due to their access to cheap debt. Let regular banks step in and serve that market, instead of being confined to riskier mortgages that the two giants weren't allowed to buy.
Libertarians: "It's always, everywhere, every time the government's fault. If the government would just get out of the way, everything would be roses and flowers in Libertopia".
Left-wingers: "You're on crack. This whole thing happened because we need more government regulation. If we could just get good regulations and put the people in power over greedy multi-national globalized corporate ... (and so on) ... we would be much better off!".
Real-worlders: "Libertopia is about as likely to work as Marxistan, the system we have is pretty good, but will always need some tweaking. There is plenty of scope for debate, on a case by case basis, looking at the actual facts and data for each case. Sometimes we should tack away from regulations, in other cases some government intervention might work to improve markets. In this case, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were probably not that good an idea to begin with. Oh, and by the way, these sorts of debates probably don't belong on Hacker News;-)"
Oh, and by the way, "wholesale indictment of American capitalism" is just handwaving. "American capitalism" is an awfully broad range of things, from Joe's Corner Sandwich Shop to Goldman Sachs to, well, Y Combinator.
When a company isn't run by it's shareholders and beholden to the market, bad things happen. Many of the choices made by both groups wouldn't have made it had there been better oversight.
Government involvement was the problem here, not capitalism.