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It's a theory that there's a broad conspiracy to cover up how bad the pandemic hit China. This would require many parties (millions of people inside and out of China) to closely conspire on a singular manufactured narrative and prevent any leaks of the "truth".

It's a textbook conspiracy theory.

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Yeah people never work in secrecy (or in the open) together and lie due to common interests. Especially millions of people. It would be impossible to coordinate them!

- Signed, Santa Claus, coming to deliver presents to children worldwide soon.

It’s a cute answer, but the difference is that there is more credible evidence that Santa Claus doesn’t exist than that he does.

This is a good example of how the anti-China rhetoric presents with a blind spot for the West (I am a westerner). Rather than learning from what they did right, folks in my country just shrug and say “you can’t trust their stats”. That may be so, and sure, there may have been a large number of specific problems and areas for improvement, but there’s no universe in which China did not display strong overall competency. You can see that even if you take most official figures with a grain of salt.

I rather thought mostly people looked how China achieved whatever success it achieved and said, "Yeah, we don't do that. Don't care how effective it is at one thing the price is too high."

Also can their stats be trusted? How would you know? Yes the west is following some very repressive and revolting media policies "Hi Julian!" But still a long way behind the PRC so stuff tends to come out eventually. Hunter Biden's laptop emails were real, not "russian disinformation" and we are now aware of that censorship which troubles us regardless of who we voted for. Most chinese in China have never heard of or seen this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man Still some 3 decades later. These things are related, similar but their magnitude is (at least at this stage) not remotely comparable.

What is so significant about "tank man", and how do you know that no one in China has seen it?

Because of methodical actions like this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Entertainmen...

There is deliberate effort by that government to erase that history. Do you think they are not effective in doing so in their own house?

You didn't address what is significant about the tank man. Have you seen the full video?

I am under the impression that despite the censorship, most people within China actually do know about tank man. So I would say {{citation needed}}.

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