Nice to see natural immunity being recognized as a talking point, although the Danish sample shows prior infection is much more protective against Delta than Omicron.
What percentage of US and UK have already been infected?
What percentage of US and UK have already been infected?
Second, just get a vaccine, jfc. Been infected? Great, now you're even more immune. Do one easy thing for your fellow humans. Can't? Plenty of documentable, obtainable exceptions. Won't? Fine. Don't avail yourself of the luxuries which are the result of humans working together to build something. Easy.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/coronavirus/eu-d...
But with vaccination, you get a pass for ~7 months, then (from Jan 2022) you also need a booster shot...
1) Allowing a prior infection will lead to idiots having COVID parties to get tested.
2) Natural immunity is more variant-specific.
3) Tests are binary, but viral load determines natural response. The amount of viral load and natural response you need to fight off future infections and the amount to trigger a positive result are almost certainly not the same concentration.
4) Tests, unlike needles in the arm, have false positives.
How is it more variant specific? The gene therapy shots only expose you to the spike protein, whereas natural infection gives you exposure to the whole virus. As we see with omnicron, this variant has evolved so that the spike protein is the most changed aspect about it.
Since there is literally no downside, get the fucking vaccine.
There are downsides for recipients of bad batches.
Public VAERS data is reporting inter-batch variances where 90+% of adverse side effects are happening in 5% of batches. VAERS data is noisy, see site videos for more discussion, but extreme inter-batch variances across all three vendors is not expected. EU regulators have previously expressed concern about inter-batch manufacturing variance.
Wow. People die and get seriously ill but it seems stupidly irresponsible to assume some correlation between that outcome and a vaccine batch absent other sorts of analysis.
I entered mine and i see: the longer ago i got the shot, the higher number of deaths and serious illness. I.e. The correlation seems to be higher number of deaths as time increases.
>any other identifier is worse than the spike protein against the natural waves of different variants
Source?
https://www.sciencealert.com/delta-variant-means-we-can-rule...
Question is, can we get 95% immunity to Covid, as opposed to “benign but still infectious”.
Varies by # of months since last dose, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSZMtSPX3iE
Dec 20, https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/12/20/omicron-3-vaccine-d...
> COVID-19 vaccines will not be enough to withstand the Omicron variant, warned the CEO of BioNTech, the German company behind the mRNA vaccine produced with Pfizer. "We must be aware that even triple-vaccinated are likely to transmit the disease…It is obvious we are far from 95 per cent effectiveness that we obtained against the initial virus."
> What can prevent it?
Thus my answer.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...
I searched Canada's official resources, but I couldn't find anywhere that they publish their own estimates.
Singapore and British Colombia have the same number of people (~5M). Singapore tested every suspected case and only recently stopped that. They have strict measures to enter the country and have had quite strict covid restrictions (and still do!) such as no dining in, masks in all public spaces, etc.
BC had some restrictions, but no where near Singapore. Mask adoption was good but not consistent. Currently very few restrictions.
Yet Singapore reports 280,000 total cases and BC 225,000.
I’d suggest BC’s number is likely double what’s reported, if not 3x.
Singapore had effective contact tracing and at least in the beginning would do mass testing to trace each and every case.
That wasn’t the case in BC.
But just based off the entirely different approaches I’d think BC is at least 2x it’s reported numbers?
But you’re right, you could dig into number of tests, how tests were triggered, etc and come up with a much better estimate.
And if there's significant cases being missed in testing, they'd show up in hospitalization and ICU statistics. And there's been no anomalies there.
There is a group of people who really want to consider "natural immunity" as equivalent to vaccinated. But here in Canada at least the previously infected are a very small percentage of the population, at least in a way we can confirm with test results.
https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news...
More recent CDC estimate suggests the total number of infections is closer to 146 million[1]. I'm not sure how they are handling repeat infections, but nonetheless it sounds like their model has the US population at higher than 1/3 infected.
1 - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...