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Local man switches to Arch, tells no one

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I resent the implication that Arch Linux users feel the need to publicly announce that they use Arch.

  (I use Arch, by the way.)

It's a long-running meme I think originated from Reddit.

It is not a meme, Go ask a question like "How I install xyz in Debian and an Arch dude will tell you to switch to Arch and then install the package from the AUR". Also Arch has a lot of fanboys that will deny that Arch rolling system has flaws(internet is evidence of people having problems) and it is not blindly update and 100% works.(they will forget to mention until is too late that it works 100% only if you first read the news page, not use certain hardware, don't install random stuff from AUR that some random dude said you should.

My advice would be for the community to

1 be honest, there are caviats, there are better tools for some jobs, there are problematic hardware configurations and problematic packages

2 try to slap the idiots that suggest switching to Arch on unrelated topics like "How the fuck do I fix GNOME stutter on DistroX",

Edit: I was responding to a comment below but the user deleted it... so Sorry if I made you considering not answering questions, please continue helping people with good advice like

- how to troubleshoot

- how to read logs

- how to search a bug tracker

- how to report a bug

- how to edit config file

- remind people that new version of xyz also contains fixes but new bugs too and sometimes will remove features, so if an upgrade of a package is suggested there should be a caution raised and maybe a way suggested to downgrade.

And if you really thing Arch would soemhow fix this bug because of Arch's magic code explain what exactly is this magic and maybe suggest this person try it a VM or live iso to confirm it actually works and there are no other new bugs.

What people hate is "it works for me on Arch so by Arch fanboy logic the issue is your distro"

I installed Arch on my VPS just so I could say btw, I run Arch.

I also run Arch ftw, btw, idk, tla.

Does Manjaro count?

I use Manjaro... on a Raspberry Pi! It took less disk space than the native Pi OS.

No.

(I used Manjaro in the past but I had many more issues when updating packages then with my current Arch.)

No.

(I used Manjaro in the past but I had many more issues when updating packages than with my current Arch.)

No. It has to be pure Arch, installed the old fashion way, without the archinstall script [0].

[0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archinstall

I use Arch, by the way. :)

Being boring and serious, but ... there is massive selection bias here. It only takes a tiny handful of evangelists to create a stereotype because nobody ever has any contact with the large silent bulk of the people installing Arch.

Even as satire, there isn't a point to make. The people being satirised are rare both in absolute terms and in the arch community.

That was a lot of words to tell us you use Arch :)

Unfortunately, I don't use Arch :'(

The author should re-write this post. In Rust.

LOL, some people do seem to signal technical prowess by their use of Arch.

Personally I'm quite fed up with having to read a treatise on the entire display stack and it's history with electron guns, modelines, etc, when I go searching for how to simply change the screen resolution. This seems to be a problem with linux in general, but Arch is, um, the archetype, IMHO.

I had run Gentoo, so maybe the technical bar of Arch seems relatively lower.

Though on the other hand, when you're trying to debug some linux issue there's not often a better resource than the arch wiki. Even when not using arch yourself.

Yeah I can second this. The first distro I ever tried was Mint and I think I was on the arch wiki every day for a whole month. Wonderful resource.

Slight exaggeration there but yeah, I think there is an expectation that you would want to known how it works as well as how to use it. For me that’s a good thing, but sure it’s not for everyone.

If tech insta existed it’d be a bunch of selfies (selfies being screenshots of your desktop with low-key terminals in the background humble-brag-installing Rust crates and low—key Stanford ML YouTube videos in the background, no big deal), with the title ‘just wanted to show you a pic of my cat, no big deal’.

Of course there would have to be some virtue signaling with the choice of Browser (Brave/Firefox at minimum, but wonderful if you are low-key compiling the NoGoogle version of Chromium, no big deal).

There's a subreddit called "unixporn", and frequent desktop threads on 4chan's /g/ that are mostly like that, though usually it's more about tiling window managers and minimalism than Standford ML.

I thought this site was tech insta :)

I have windows, macos, and linux machines. Some of the linux machines run arch. There, am I a stereotype now?

Can we focus on what we are using our tools for building, instead of focusing on whatever tools we've chosen? Or are we collectively ashamed, as we should be, of the various ad-tech, spyware, awful society-destroying Molochs that we've created so we resort to tribal screetching about our choice of societal suicide mechanism.

(there, am I a meme yet?)

Wednesday, December 01, 2010

Haskell Researchers Announce Discovery of Industry Programmer Who Gives a Shit

The worldwide Haskell community met up over beers today to celebrate their unprecedented discovery of an industry programmer who gives a shit about Haskell.

On Wednesday, researchers issued a press release revealing that 27-year-old Seth Briars of North Carolina, a Java programmer at Blackwater accounting firm Ross and Fordham, actually gives a shit about Haskell.

"Mr. Briars has followed every single one of our press releases for years," the press release stated. "Probably even this one."

( continued at http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2010/12/haskell-researchers-... )

My favorite reply from the discussion on lobsters [1]: "Wait till he connects to wifi". Though the pun would have worked better with Gentoo or FreeBSD as I don't recall having wifi connection problems under Arch in the last few years.

[1]: https://lobste.rs/s/7dhoko/local_man_switches_arch_tells_no_...

Someone there posted this gem:

https://www.sudosatirical.com/articles/man-loses-will-to-liv...

(Man loses will to live during Gentoo Install)

It depends a lot on you module. My laptop now has very spotty wifi (at some point it refuses to work and I have to restart the services).

I assumed it was a joke about how the installer contains both the firmware and the software necessary to connect to wifi, but the base install doesn't. So Arch support locations are flooded with "I use Arch btw but can't connect to my WiFi help plz."

No idea where these instability memes come from. On my laptop the wifi worked pretty much out of the box.

I stopped having WiFi problems on Arch once I learned the nmcli syntax.

Wifi was a pain occasionally until I went with Gnome. The cmd line tools were a struggle with some web based authentication schemes.

a person re-writes full featured and working library in rust. tells everyone.

Soon: I run linux on m1.

10 years ago I used Arch on Macbook Air, when it still had all of the drivers working. Everyone asked what that UI was. People practically pulled the "I use Archlinux" answer out of me. Get ready for some m1 fame. :D

> [satire]

Thanks, I wouldn’t have been able to tell otherwise

I hereby publicly announce that I use Arch Linux. I really do so for more than five years now, and I'm not thinking about switching. OK, maybe to OpenBSD for a change now and then.

PS: Did I mention, that I use Arch Linux?

PPS: Did I mention, that I'm thinking of switching to OpenBSD?

PPPS: OK, back to Arch Linux, I'm not tough enough for OpenBSD.

PPPPS: Did I mention that I'm back at running Arch Linux, by the way?

I use Proxmox btw

I don't tell people I run Gentoo. I just tell them I don't run systemd.

Gentoo was the first linux distribution I ever used, back in the early 2000s. It was a compelling alternative to Slackware, whose liveCD's I'd played around with at the time.

Although people complain a lot about it, I do genuinely believe that installing Gentoo taught me a lot about linux, and computing more generally (even if the jokes [0] are true).

Arch is very similar: although most of my boxes run a debian flavour, the Arch wiki is excellent and a fantastic source of knowledge. And I've installed it three times -- never telling anyone about it, prior to this conversation.

[0]: http://bash.org/?464385

I, for one, don't run PulseAudio. Pipewire is fantastic! Such a nicely designed and implemented system.

I run Arch but I don't tell anyone.

Shame on you, all the world must know. I run Arch btw.

Arch is too simple for me. I run Qubes OS. Upd: And you can run Arch inside it in a VM.

Linux From Scratch, or bust.

Made me grin. I guess this indicative that the advocacy is working.

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