Two Mexicans face 30 Years in Jail for a Tweet
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In 2008, a poet was found guilty by the Supreme Court and given a token fine for a poem.
Why do sacred cows get such respect?
You though, lacking superpowers, couldn't help if you were there. So I dunno, maybe you should frantically search until you get positive evidence, and an idea of what you could do to help, before you decide what to do.
There are laws to deal with the guy if these was a scheme to profit. If he was deluded there's no reason to take actions, he's no worse than the idiots who ran around because of his rumors. In fact his action was better. By forwarding his news he's inviting conversation and investigation, by running off to the school the terrified parents are actually potentially causing a problem.
I don't see why authors should be held responsible for their readers' stupidity, though.
The definition of free speech that that argument was used to defend was the Espionage Act of 1917 which:
o Made it a crime to convey information with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the armed forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies, punishable by death or by imprisonment for not more than 30 years or both,
o Made it a crime to convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 or by imprisonment for not more than 20 years or both,
o Made it a crime to promote the success of its enemies when the United States is at war, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 or by imprisonment for not more than 20 years or both,
o Made it a crime to cause or attempt to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 or by imprisonment for not more than 20 years or both, and
o Made it a crime to willfully obstruct the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 or by imprisonment for not more than 20 years or both.
The Sedition Act of 1918 extended this to:
o Make it a crime to use "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces or that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt, and
o Give the Postmaster General the right to go through mail and refuse to deliver any that did any of these things while the United States was at war.
This resulted in about 1500 prosecutions and 1000 convictions for speech, and the sentences were generally between 5 and 20 years.
Not a good precedent.
Yes, we are living hard times here.
Although panic didn't take hold, because of limited Twitter penetration, and because the idea that the stone throwing jumped 20 km northwards into white suburbia probably set off BS detectors, it could have gotten out of hand fast. In fact, I expect a major social-networking fed panic to happen here soon enough.
When someone says "I confirm", it means that they have personally seen or heard something. I have very little sympathy for the person who created the original tweet. A bit more for the person who retweeted. In both cases 30 years is too harsh, but there do need to be consequences for creating chaos on such a large scale.
Imagine if I a guy came rushing out of the bathroom shouting 'Fire' and a bunch of people went in the check before anyone would evacuate. Obviously many more people could die. The downside? One unnecessary evacuation that probably needed practice anyways.
It seems like the world is full of authoritarians though, seeking to punish everyone for everything.
Maybe it's a Canadian thing?
Of course, we shouldn't punish people who genuinely thought there was a fire. We definitely should encourage people to give the alarm when needed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_alarm
"Intentional false alarms of any kind, especially through emergency notification systems, are very serious criminal offenses, and can result in very severe legal punishments."
Dunno if you recognize that, but it's my premise from earlier. In it I was talking about a scenario like the one in Mexico is thought to be - a re-tweeter, not a rumor creator.
My initial comment wasn't an attempt to totally rebute yours, and I should have made that clear. I was focusing on:
>>>The downside? One unnecessary evacuation that probably needed practice anyways.
You seemed to consider the unnecessary evacuation as a minor perturbation. I pointed out that such an evacuation is not 100% risk-free.
Of course, nothing is 100% risk-free, and we need to take this into account when doing risk analysis. After our discussion, I guess the risk of accidents during an unnecessary evacuation might actually be lower than the risk of having people not raising the alarm when needed (due to a fear of being punished if it turns out they were wrong). But this risk still needs to be weighed when considering this problem.