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All wild animals are stronger than they look. Humans are comparatively weak.. most of us can’t fight a deer. Monkeys are intelligent. They are aware of leverage and potential danger. They jump on people, chase, scratch and bite them

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You hear that said but if you look at human prehistory whenever we encountered large animals they got wiped out and are mostly have to be preserved these days by conservation laws.

Trained humans working as a group with weapons, facing animals that have not seen humans before, is a completely different story. There is a reason African animals survived along humans while the story is different else where

I can't fight a pet dog that's 2/3 of my weight.

You could if you trained for it. You would probably be maimed after, though. That said these monkeys are more like 1/10th your weight

Any large dog is a lot to handle for most people should the dog get aggressive. Trained attack dogs demonstrate this quite well.

Attack dogs have a lot of core body / neck strength that they use combined with strong jaws. Definitely dangerous to an unarmed human.

The only thing you have on dogs is that you're smart enough to move to an advantaged position that the dog doesn't understand. Like run through a door and close it, get in a car and run the dog over, grab a gun and shoot the dog, those kinds of options. If you have no options, you're fucked.

Deer? Those are from 500 pounds to over one thousand pounds. Oh courses a person can’t engage in a physical fight with them.

In the San Francisco Bay Area, our native California Mule deer that commonly roam suburban streets, weigh in between 100 and 300lbs.

White tailed deer on the east coast and midwest are in a similar size range.

And the little Key deer down in Florida, which are the smallest of the North American Whitetails, are typically about 40-50 pounds. One night when I was down in the Florida Keys, typing away at my laptop on the beech in the dark, I felt something cold and wet touch my elbow. I looked over my shoulder, and a little Key deer was sniffing my arm. I jumped a bit, and then the deer jumped a bit, and with one last curious look, she ran off into the dark. Very cute little thing.

What deer are these? Deer in my area rarely weigh over 200 pounds.

I'm guessing you're from Europe, because what you call Deer, the USA call Caribou or Elk, and what we call Deer aren't nearly that big.

Male deer with antlers routinely gore dogs where I’m from. Deer, not elk.

Or he has seen Disney movies and thinks caribous are male deers.

Elk and caribou/reindeer are both kinds of deer (so are moose for that matter... for him to speak of 1000 lb deer, he must be thinking of moose or be mistaken.)

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