And then the gall to suggest _Ohio, the Mojave, and Alaska_. Bit on the nose, don't you think?
I don't understand how you think this rhetoric helps anyone. I guess it lets Americans puff out their chest?
And then the gall to suggest _Ohio, the Mojave, and Alaska_. Bit on the nose, don't you think?
I don't understand how you think this rhetoric helps anyone. I guess it lets Americans puff out their chest?
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
It seems your family history has been blessed to not know this sort of existential crisis. For generations now, The US of America is, actually and literally, viewed as the land of salvation and opportunity for millions of people around the world. Do not pretend that it is not.
If you seriously think millions of Taiwanese think this of America I would love to see your reaction when you travel there. Ohio, the Mojave, Alaska. Insulting on a whole new level, really.
Whether intentionally or not, I think you are misreading the parent comment.
They never claimed that this is how the Taiwanese population views the US now. They are claiming that this is how they are very likely to start viewing the US when/if CCP starts marching towards Taiwan. Those two statements are very different.
I also think violent takeover is a remote hypothetical but that's another discussion.
I fully agree with the violent takeover being a remote hypothetical though.
Why is Alaska "insulting"?
Note: I live there, and it's awesome.
Ohio is also a perfectly fine place to live.
I'd be grateful.
You?
If you wanted to persuade a group of people to immigrate to the US, you'd mention Ohio and the Mojave desert first? Those are not "premier" locations regardless of how you or I feel about them personally.
"Not a widely shared preference" and "insult" are two different things, entirely.
"Anchorage has the most ethnically diverse schools in the United States, including the three most diverse high schools, the three most diverse middle schools, and the 19 most diverse elementary schools. Even the least diverse schools in Anchorage rank in the top 1% nationally."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchorage,_Alaska#Education
As for Ohio, over 11 million people like it well enough to live there. Again, it's not an "insult" to suggest that someone else might like it. Especially if their alternative is PRC.
750 million people worldwide wanted to migrate as of 2017: https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-mi...
Of those, the US is the most frequent top preferred destination, at 21% or 158 million.
Gallup also publishes a Potential Net Migration Index for each country, which finds that net 17% of Taiwan would like to leave, including 25% of the youth. This data is from 2015-2017.
“[Taiwan refugees] can help [USA] rebuild the infrastructure [of] Shanghai and Guangdong in Ohio Valley, Mojave/Sonora or Alaska regions”
There is no suggestion that any Taiwanese citizens be forced to relocate, be confined to or even visit those spectacular areas of North America! Seriously comrade, me thinks you protest too much.
I'm the kind of person that hates this kind of crap from the US, like, interfering with foreign governments to increase their freedom is the kind of doublespeak I'm not too thrilled about.
But this does seem a bit different. Here people from Taiwan are proposed to be given an evacuation route. Nobody said anything about invading and taking the whole population by force. An alternative proposal I saw mentioned is to keep Taiwan out of China's hands which seems way more invasive (and risky, like, world war type risky) by comparison.
I do agree that the specific "dump them in one of our deserts" idea would not be what first comes to my mind, but ignoring the specifics for now, I'm not sure that this is how GP meant it. (And leaving completely in the middle whether this is feasible or a good idea for all the other reasons. I'm just commenting on the "provide option to get away" -> "don't do savior crap" part.)
How do you have information that he's white, or even American? I couldn't see anything like that in his profile. I read it as the voice of someone in Taiwan asking for help.
And then the gall to suggest _Ohio, the Mojave, and Alaska_. Bit on the nose, don't you think?
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Can you elaborate for the rest of us?
Most of your comment comes off as just anti-American sentiment, but zero actual information or discussion of the topic at hand.
Really, it's a lot worse; White savior crap usually has at least a couple levels of indirection between it and the outright ethnically-stereotyped economic exploitation of the “beneficiaries”. (To be fair, the latter does usually end up accompanying it, but usually not as an overt part of the initial sales pitch.)