If it was this bad with the vaccine, imagine how much worse off he would have surely been without it. He likely suffered the viral equivalent of seatbelt-shaped bruises on his body after a car crash that would have otherwise killed him.
> still think the problem lies in not enough vaccinations
Where does OP say that?
He's blaming his sickness on the unvaccinated guy he got it from with no hint of irony that he got it despite being vaccinated and potentially spreading it as well.
Yes, because all the data shows that infection between vaccinated -> vaccinated is lowered, there is no irony in there. Also because the person in question didn't isolate the moment they felt sick, they continuously wandered around the house and I forced them to isolate after they showed up in front of me, coughing and announcing they "felt sick". So fuck off.
I caught it at home, I stayed home, the person lives in the same house, and so I didn't infect anyone else.
You have a pretty annoying and uncivil attitude, not sure what triggers you about the vaccine talk but you have an axe to grind and you are piling on my anecdote to push whatever view you have without backing it up, I will stop engaging because I surely don't see any point in trying to hold civility towards you.
Have a good weekend, hope you find better ways to spend your energy.
I didn't have any cough or shortness of breath, there was nothing in the sense of "pretty bad COVID", this was a very mild infection. Even more when I compare to the person who infected me, 4 years older than me and still coughing their brains out after 2 weeks with it, including blood in their cough for a couple days.
So I'm not sure where you are drawing this conclusion from... The vaccine was effective, I didn't infect my girlfriend whom I shared rooms, bed and so on, and I attribute that to both me and her being vaccinated, hers was a month later than mine so I believe she has a higher antibodies count going on.
I really, really don't understand what point you are trying to make out of my anecdote, nothing in there draws to your conclusion.
EDIT: I believe you have an axe to grind, don't come soapboxing over my anecdote with your own made-up conclusions about what I said. It's dishonest and crummy.
[1] "In the UK it was described that secondary attack rates among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (25% for vaccinated vs 23% for unvaccinated)"
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7...
A study based on data from Singapore found a similar effect[1].
[1]: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6...
What a weird argument you are building, suggesting the vaccine wasn't good for him because he got bad covid and didn't die.
Why are vaccines necessary?
A cure would be just fine; some drug that stopped covid immediately would be very nice.
For example most forms of malaria _had_ a cure with the discovery of quinine. Newer drugs have taken quinine's place. It's a race between the organism and man in any case, whether cure or vaccine.
Because we don't have a cure ?
> A cure would be just fine; some drug that stopped covid immediately would be very nice.
> For example most forms of malaria _had_ a cure with the discovery of quinine. Newer drugs have taken quinine's place. It's a race between the organism and man in any case, whether cure or vaccine.
So we don't need vaccines because cures - which we don't have so far - are better. Okay.
I didn't say that.
What I'm saying is that we should research treatments (non-vaccine cures) as well as vaccines.
After all, of our current medical solutions that do work for various ailments, what percentage are vaccines and what percentage are treatments found by experiment or accident (like quinine for malaria)?