* Can MetaFace reliably detect such bad actors?
* Is their current technology, where users don't control their own data, compatible with protecting users privacy? In other words, isn't this exactly where we expected to end up when these technologies were first built?
* How can we trust that they don't just ban the ones they don't like and leave users to the mercies of the others?
We're not users to FB anymore than a cow is family to a milk farmer. Of course they'll protect the farm, not because they're benevolent, but simply because it keeps the milk flowing and that product pays the bills.
Cambridge Analytica comes to mind. Facebook actively assisted them. Though the scandal caused many, many policy changes at Facebook, it is a historical case of Facebook assisting someone using their data to spy on their users.
That's fairly irrelevant to the topic at hand, without saying anything about it, one way or the other.
Facebook has given away their data in the past, and gone so far as to provide special access for some clients over others. That is undisputed. There's no reason to believe that they may not do so again, in future, if they believe it to be in their interests.
We're discussing FB, not the local pizza shop. Let's be realistic about their power and how they operate, etc.
That’s quite a dismissal. Is this even possible?
How would one go about proving or disproving such an effect?
From what I recall, CA was considered to be a military grade weapon by the UK gov which needed approve each case prior to export.
Promises were made that it would never be used domestically.
Based on this information, I would have to assume that CA is effective, generally speaking.
if you want people running your OS, you need a good app store, and facebook’s whole thing was free apps (farmville and the like) - without traditional monetization, how could facebook attract big developers to fill their phone platform with apps and avoid the fate of windows phone?
well, when you use an app on facebook, you give the app permission to read your data, sometimes a lot of your data.
see this illuminating article, “What the fuck was facebook thinking” [0]. facebook can say truthfully they never sold anyone’s data, because they gave it away for free to anyone who would build an app to keep people on their platform.
[0] https://jamesallworth.medium.com/what-the-f-was-facebook-thi...
They can and choose not to, someone used their own 2012 tools they developed in a scientific paper (detection of Nazis)
Nobody controls their own data, it’s not FB it’s all data mined.
How can you trust Facebook? I refuse to use their rebrand, you don’t give trust, they earn it. Did Facebook earn your trust?
The proof they can detect is is they use it to advertise. https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-faceboo...
Nazis are pretty easy to detect (caste discrimination can be trained, anti Muslim sentiments are easy too, but this is a low hanging fruit).
Like Leary said, do they care?
Facebook obviously can do it, they’d rather sell ads and use the users as marketing data instead of removing them, until they need to virtue signal. I can’t find the paper but I doubt anything I said is a surprise. These tools are used to make money, not moderate.
*Do they actually care?
I think the answer is obvious given facebooks business model. The only issue is competition.