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A ton of great food, lots of concerts and shows from all over the world, great weather, and relatively easy access to world class outdoor activities?

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Heaven forbid someone would want to live in a phenomenal climate in a city with good diversity and tolerant people.

SF is not the only place like that.

Absolutely! But not every place is like that :)

Great climate and gorgeous scenery but it is a city that lost a ground war with an army of homeless drug addicts.

Human feces on all of the streets, regular property crime, stores closing up and moving away, intense regulatory oversight for small businesses along with high costs.

No one I know who is starting something novel is doing it in California.

I guess it depends on what you mean by novel but the startup scene is very strong in the bay currently. I moved out to Utah last year for a cheaper place to live and obviously that’s nice, but the amount of casual racism and lack of diversity is shocking. I took things like tolerance and even basic regards for the planet for granted while I lived in the bay, and I’m dismayed at how rare that is across the rest of the US.

The climate in the south Bay Area is better most of the year.

I wouldn't say SF's climate is that good - SoCal weather is far superior. And many of the San Franciscans I came across during my time there were pretentious and snobby. The rest of the Bay Area wasn't any better, and I'm much happier since moving to NYC.

I won’t argue about the climate, obviously SoCal is sunnier but I never was a fan of the heat waves and smog of LA. My own personal definition for a good climate is a temperature that gives the ability to do things outside year-round but I do love visiting that part of California!

>tolerant people

Yeah people surr are tolerant of all the carjackers and homeless

And intolerant of entire schools of thought

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