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I agree, although I don't look at Christianity as religion, from my understanding of the new testament..Christ was crucified basically because he didn't follow "the law of their fathers"..religion essentially.

The aim is not to convince though, but to raise the question, why does our generation think that anything scriptural cannot be treated as fact. Why are newtons laws fact, but not his convictions? Are we so taken up by being "scientific" in our own eyes, that we forget the very premise on which science is based, God?

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There is an obvious answer to that: Newton's laws match our observations of reality, ignoring relativistic effects. Scripture is written by someone to reflect their opinions. They often have truths in them, but they're just a story. They don't reflect reality any more than Harry Potter does.

To answer your second question: science is not based on a god or gods. Scientific thinking often branched out of religion, but they're separate now and have been for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. And science branched off from many different religions, just not the Christian one you seem to believe in.

aa..cool. But then, very few people actually get to "prove" or consciously "observe" newtons laws, but a principle is a principle whether you believe it or not. In fact, at lower levels of education, you simply read and believe these, as fact, from those that have written about them, and proved them. Can't we say the same about Christianity?

PS: Note that I avoid the word religion, as it dilutes Christianity, The Gospel of the New Testament.

Newton's laws are not fact, but scientific theory that's been tested through experiment and observation over hundreds of years. His convictions are just opinion.

For me, the problem is the double standard that is applied to historical writings; Mention Scripture, "Oh, those are just someone's words", Mention a scientific manuscript from the same time "Oh, my, what a genius"!

How many of us actually get to prove newtons laws for ourselves? How many of us consciously wake up and say, today I will test out gravity? But isn't the law of Gravity real, yes it is!

Thing is, most of what we know, we have read from what others have done or experienced, more in the scientific field. Why can't we apply the same standard to scripture? Maybe if we study deep we can prove the things written therein

Anyone can test it though, and if it's proven wrong, it will overturn the science. There's no double standard there, just because you choose not to test it doesn't mean others don't. They have tested newton's laws, a very large number of times, in a variety of different ways.

How do you prove scripture, especially when they contradict each other?

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